Why is got labeled omnscient

Ive never read anything in the bible that says god is all knowing. So my question is why do people believe god can see into the future, or even see everywhere at once because it mentions that god is in houses which gather together in his name. Which would imply that hes not there when hes not there.

(note for prophecys I say that god is simply telling people what hes going to do in the future)

I presume you meant “Why is GOD labeled omniscient?”…

Anyway, I imagine that it’s comforting to believe that some all-powerful entity is out there looking after you. Kind of the feeling a lot of very young children have towards their parents.

It goes with omnipotence.

What wine goes with omnipotence? … I think it is white for fish, and red for beef … but what about for omnipotence?

A white wine will clash with omnipotence, just as a red will. A Tavel, while it can’t support and enhance omnipotence, doesn’t detract from it either.

With omniscience you need to take your cue from the texture of the dish.
I specific recommend the Got special reserve '86 with beef. Of all the omniscient labels, that works best. It also works nicely with panneed chicken in any piquant sauce.

So they how come people are trying to cure it? Does this mean that Bob Dole is omniscient, since he’s… oh, wait, you said omnipotence, not… nevermind.

Well, how about these for starters:

1 Sam 2:3 - Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.

1 Sam 16:7 - But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.

Acts 1:24 - And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,

Acts 15:8 - And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

1 Kings 8:39 - Then hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and forgive, and do, and give to every man according to his ways, whose heart thou knowest; (for thou, even thou only, knowest the hearts of all the children of men;)

1 Chron 28:9 - And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.

Matthew 6:4 - That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

Matthew 6:18 - That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.

Matthew 6:32 - (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

Heb 4:13 - Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

Matthew 10:29-30 - 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.

30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Acts 2:23 - Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

1 John 3:20 - For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

Isiah 46:9-11 - 9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,

10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

Jeremiah 1:5 - Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Proverbs 15:3 - The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.

Psalm 139:4 - For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether.

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Perhaps a re-reading is in order, Asmodean?

If you accept the premises of monotheism, it’s a logical necessity.

If God were not omni-all, he would not fit the definition of God. A non omni-all being would have to owe it’s existence to some being/force/thing higher than itself; and that being/force/thing would be God.

See Anselm’s Ontological Argument.

I don’t know - I’ve met Omniscient, and I think God coulda aimed higher although it DOES explain a lot. :slight_smile:

Seriously, different cultures have had different approaches to this. The ancient Greeks didn’t believe in ALL-powerful gods, just gods that were more powerful than people.

I think people need to believe that someone/something/somewhere knows all the answers that we don’t know. And the more we discover about the world and the universe and ourselves, the higher we raise the bar for what an omniscient God needs to be - to satifsy our need to look up to something.

That’s a lot of verses, Mauve Dog. Of course, they all seem to contradict 2 Chr. 32:31:

God left him [Hezekiah], to try him, that he might know all that was in his heart.

(The NIV does all it can to cover up this verse, but the KJV translation here is pretty accurate)

Not to mention all the times that God tests someone (Adam, Abraham, etc.), which seems to imply that God doesn’t know what the outcome of the test will be.

Actually, Opus1, I am by no means a Biblical scholar. The verses I presented were the result of a simple search, and the point was to show that there is, in fact, plenty of mention in the Bible that indicates God’s presumed omniscience (contrary to Asmodean’s initial statement). However, as you point out, there is also evidence to the contrary, which presents something of an inconsistency.
Not to offend anyone, but this is yet another reason why I have difficulty accepting the Bible as the Word of God, since apparently even its authors have difficulty agreeing on what, exactly, God is capable of.

Um, no. If you accept the premises of Christianity then omniscience is a logical necessity(especially the premise demonstrated by Mauve Dog, that God is omniscient).

I could easily suppose a religion that worshiped a tiny, impotent, and rather stupid deity. Nothing about monotheism assumes anything other than the simple fact that however you define “god”, there is only one.

Further, your comment about God not being omni-all is a bit ingenuous-I assume that you are assuming the definition of God to be similar to that posited by Anselm(ie, the being that is the omni-all) and then positing the possible existence of a “God” that is not an omni-all(ie, contradiction its essence) in order to demonstrate the necessity that if there is a God that accords to your definition it must then accord to your definition. Is that really necessary to state?

I would also like to see a defense of the statement that a being that is lesser must originate from a being that is greater.

In any case, as I recall from my sparse readings and miniscule knowledge of Anselm, what you have just stated is, in fact, Descartes argument from the 3rd meditation, not the ontological argument. (Which is used by both Anselm and Descartes(in the 5th meditation) and states that the very definition clearly and distinctly percieved(ok, I’m phrasing it the way Descartes did-I’m more familliar with that version) as a being perfect in every sense includes necessarily the property of existence and hence must necessarily exist.)