Ahem. I clearly said a blind man, thank you. I didn’t say anything about women, because they exist to be contrary.
And you have pretty well established that your entire argument in this thread is nothing more than your own unsupported belief.
OK. We get it. You are not capable of believing that different people can appear to be significantly older than they are. In addition to which, you have an unshakeable conviction, (based, again, on nothing but personal belief), that anyone who does not share your own limited beliefs is either a young man looking to rape children or someone who supports young men looking to rape children.
So, basically, you are posting from a position of invincible ignorance with a dash of fantasy.
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At this point, I would suggest to other posters that there is no point in continuing any discussion with Dio. No rules are being broken, but the discussion will never be resolved: “You cannot reason a man out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.”
If the discussion does continue, however, further personal remarks from any posters will be judged much more harshly.
Obviously, this is bullshit.
Yes. There are plenty of ways to know. For instance, if a girl was in the same class as me in high school and I knew her parents. If I knew the woman was a bartendender, not just in a bar, but working in it, and I knew she was going to college, and i knew multiple other people who knew her and I knew she lived in her own apartment, paid her own bills, drove a car, etc. and I’d seen her drivers license.
The women I slept with (after I was 18 anyway) were not random oickups, but women I already knew a lot about, got to know more before I slept with them. often knew their families and never looked even close to being underage (usually they were older than me).
I never took chances.
No.
IDs are commonly faked, and everyone knows it. This is a retarded comparison.
If she was 15 or under, she would not look and act 21.
My personal standards is not taking chances – at least it was when I was single. It’s been kind of moot for the last 20 years.
I don’t know. He’s you’re friend. If he wasn’t damn sure, he’s a sleazeball.
If it doesn’t look exactly like them, don’t fuck them. That was easy.
And that picture will not look like the person borrowing it.
I’m calling totl bullshit on that. No fucking way. Especially not in terms of speech and behavior.
No, I think the majority should dictate it, and the majority already has. Offenders can peddle their “I got fooled” stories to their cellmates.
I cannot be fooled. I know that for a fact. There is no way a ten year old is going to fool me into thinking she’s 18. I think it’s pretty sick that you would even consider giving pedos anything close to that kind of avenue.
Do you even know what a pedophile is? Hint: it involves being attracted to pre-pubescents. Being attracted to post-pubescents is completely natural, if not culturally acceptable.
She was talking about 10 year olds.
So what? Again: puberty is the dividing line, not age. A post-pubescent ten year old may be 1 in 100 million rare, but if it can still happen, then it can happen.
As for being emotionally older, it can indeed happen. My job brings me into contact with a lot of CPS cases, and frequently kids in their low teens will act much older than you’d expect them to. They’re more grown up because their home life forced them to early on.
That SOMEBODY thinks IS and LOOKS 18ish.
Damn, you are NOT a pedo if what you want to fuck looks like an adult an that you reasonably think is an adult.
This is piddling, pedantic bullshit. Anyone fucks a ten year old is pedophile in my book.
It is impossible to reasonably think a ten year old is an adult.
Here’s the situation: You have a ten year old who is a perfect imitation of an 18 year old. It’s like somebody took an 18-year-old and crayoned over the date on their birth certificate - it’s literally impossible to tell by looking at them that they’re not 18.
You claim that such people don’t exist. That’s nice. Stop fighting the hypothetical.
Given this hypothetical, somebody looks at this person and thinks “Wow, that’s a hot 18-year-old. I’d tap that.” To respond to that with “that man wants to screw 10-year-olds” (which is what “pedophile” means; it’s about desires, not actions) demonstrates a palpable incomprehension of the situation under discussion.
Yeah, tomndebb’s right. If you can’t see the illogic in your stance at this point, little further is going to help.
That scenario is ludicrous. Even a prematurely pubescent 10-year old is still going to talk and act like a 10-year old.
And there’s no way in hell she’d look like an adult anyway. No way in hell.
It’s illogical to say that fucking ten year old children is pedophilia?
What planet am I on? Do you people have any ethical standards at all? Any lines whatsoever. I’d ask if you people would draw the line at fucking infants, but I’m afraid of the answer.
The likelihood of the scenario isn’t the point. The point is that an 18 year old figure, regardless of actual age, is going to inspire sexual inclinations. That does not make the person seeing the figure a pedo if it transpires that the 18 year old figure belongs to a 15 year old, or even by some freak chance a 10 year old.
And if that freak 10 year old has a driver’s license saying she’s 18, and manages to act without tripping red flags, the guy still isn’t a pedo, because he believes he’s looking and talking to an 18 year old.
It’s never going to be a ten year old. You might as well posit scenarios where a beagle dog looks like Jessica Alba.
Again, the probability isn’t the point. If, somehow, there is a beagle that does look like Jessica Alba, someone who doesn’t know it’s a dog and says “I’d tap that” is not guilty of wanting bestiality.
Again, you’re fighting the hypothetical. Nobody is talking about anybody wanting to fuck children. We’re talking about wanting to fuck adults, and mistaking children for adults. That’s the thread. Explicitly. Haven’t you been paying attention?
That said, I find post-pubescent ten year olds pretty incredible too - but that doesn’t bother me because I think they’re an extreme hypothetical that was pushed to try to distort the discussion. I think this thread is really about mature-looking sixteen year olds.
If I had to pick out an extreme hypothetical, I would pick the woman who is one day short of her 18th birthday. What’s the response to that? “Think of the children!!!1!”?
Because I think it’s possible that some girls below the arbitrary age of consent are both physically and emotionally mature enough to have some sexual autonomy?
I lost my virginity at 15 (actually, right around when that picture upthread was taken) to my 18-year-old boyfriend. I was a junior in high school (thanks to the aforementioned grade skip) and he was a senior. I don’t regret a good goddamned thing about it, and he’s certainly not a perp or a pedophile.
Exactly. The post-pubescent ten year old is purely a hypothetical. Post-pubescent 16 year olds are way, way more likely, but you protested against being attracted to them with the same vehemence as you do the hypothetical ten year old, Dio. If the improbability of the ten year old is what’s bothering you, then let’s put it aside and go to a 15 or 16 year old.
You think eleven year olds can do it? Nine year olds?
What would be a non-arbitrary age of consent?