Polling my wife, who saw the original trilogy sometime after age 30, C3P0 was not annoying to her then.
And are not allowed in bars. Droids are servants - or slaves, and get mistreated like slaves. Luke is a good guy because he hangs out with them. And we appreciate it because we’ve identified with the droids from the beginning.
Just like the two peasants in The Hidden Fortress.
Nope. I was 25, in fact I got engaged the day before I saw it for the second time. C-3PO was kind of like a stuffy English butler (Arthur Treacher kind of character) who was the non-hero in the bunch - but helped anyway.
I like to think that bartender saw some shit during the Clone Wars, and that’s why he doesn’t allow droids in his bar.
I like to think it’s because they don’t buy drinks.
And they certainly don’t tip.
After seeing Episode VI, I decided to re-watch all the earlier movies to review what the backstory was supposed to be. Tonight I bit the bullet and re-watched Episode I.
What impressed me most was just how much screen time Jar Jar is given, especially in the first half of the movie. It seems like he’s in every fucking scene. It wouldn’t surprise me if he a had nearly as much screen time as most of the major characters (and probably more than Natalie Portman). He’s not just comic relief, he’s constantly disrupting dramatic scenes or flopping around in the background and causing a pointless distraction. He’s way more obtrusive than C-3PO ever was (and C-3PO refers to him as a “strange creature” at several points). This overexposure contributes to why he’s so annoying.
The other thing that impressed me was just how excruciating Jake Lloyd was as Anakin Skywalker. I know it’s hard to find good child actors, but all he did was woodenly recite his lines. For a franchise like this, they could have put more effort into finding someone decent. At worse, they could have changed Anakin’s age to expand the available talent pool. It’s not surprising he had virtually no career afterward.
Not drinks, maybe, but it’s clear that droids have some luxuries, like Threepio’s oil bath. I’d expect that at least some of those luxuries would be consumable and convenient to install in a bar, if the owner wanted to be able to cater to droids. And with as many different biological species as the bar was catering to, it doesn’t seem like much of a stretch: All of those creatures can’t be consuming the same intoxicants.
And I’d be more inclined to blame Skywalker than Jake Lloyd. Most of the actors in the prequels were wooden, even those who have done just fine in other acting roles. It’s true that Lloyd hasn’t had much of a subsequent career, but then, that’s true of most child actors.
Heh, for example, in the case of Natalie Portman, she’d previously been an exceptional child actress - at the advanced age of 12! In Leon: The Professional. She was far better in that, than in the Star Wars prequels, and has been far better since: leading me to conclude direction was the problem in the prequels, not the actors.
This. When everyone in a movie turns in a bad performance, it isn’t their fault, it’s the director’s. Hayden Christiansen didn’t want to play Anakin as a whiny teenager, but that was how he was directed to act.
Colibri: I only saw the prequel trilogy once (was enough!) and had forgotten that Jar Jar was in so very much of the first movie. I have to imagine that if C3PO had been in as many scenes, proportionally, as Jar Jar was, he, too, would have been unbearable.
…And obviously I meant to say “blame Lucas”, not “blame Skywalker”, but it looks like nobody even noticed the typo.
We got what you meant. 
“I meant blame LUCAS, not blame LUKE S.”
You were obviously channeling the force.
(I thought you did it on purpose, as a cute zinger at Lucas’s self-identification with his protagonist.)
(So, like, use that! “I meant to do that!” Yeah, that’s the ticket!)
The poor kid was mercilessly mocked by his schoolmates, as well as the entire Internet, for his performance. He said, “fuck this” and decided to never act again.
Yay, fans?
The racial stereotyping of Jar Jar was every bit as deliberate as naming one character Nute Gunray, or in “A New Hope” having the one Black man being the most evil person in the universe. That how Hollywood liberals such as Lucas think.
Or naming the fat guy “Porkins.”
Lando Calrissian was the most evil person in the universe?
He wasn’t in A New Hope.
I suspect Jim’s Son is talking about Vader, who of course isn’t black.
