Do many gay folks admire her simply for her work, or did she also ever say anything supportive of gay people?
Had she ever mentioned gays at all, supportive or otherwise?
Didn’t she wear rather mannish outfits later in her career?
Marc
I think there are about 10,500 books on the subject, so don’t exactly know where to begin.
Many Gay men identified with her on screen/on stage vulnerability and with her off-stage constant setbacks and comebacks from adversity.
She certainly was aware of the fact that huge numbers of Gay men were her fans, and even though there are a few less-than-positive remarks she made about the fact, for the most part she played to her Gay audience and made them feel welcomed.
And though I wasn’t old enough to be there, from what I have been by guys who were there, it was quite the event to be Gay and go to a Judy Garland concert. Imagine the biggest Gay bar in town and there you were in the front row.
Didn’t she joke that when she dies, the flags on Fire Ireland (NY) will be at half staff?
Sorry, Fire Island.
I always thought it was based on the symbolism of “Over the Rainbow,” representing a mythical place where gays are completely accepted by everyone.
Yes she did, and the irony is that the birth of the modern Gay Rights movement in America is usually attributed to the weekend of her death (though the exact role her death played in it is up for debate).
Didn’t Judy marry a gay man (Vincente Minelli)? And didn’t her daughter Liza keep up the family tradition by marrying not one, but two gay men (Peter Allen & David Gest)?
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
I never realized that’s what Oz was a Metaphor for…
“Scrub Scrub, here! Scrub Scrub, there!
And a couple of tra-de-das!
A man can wash another man in the merry old land of OZ!”
Somebody’s been watching Family Guy…
Judy’s father, Frank Gumm, was also gay. Had Liza had children with Peter Allen or David Gest, it’s very likely that a vortex would have opened and all of the world would have become gay. (Of course Natasha Richardson’s family tree has lavendar blossoms as well; her grandfather, father and two uncles are all gay, and while husband Liam Neeson isn’t, he did play Oscar Wilde which counts for something.)
Being gay, no. Being gay and marrying uninformed women- that’s another story.
Vincente Minnelli had three wives and two children. While he didn’t come across as the most masculine of men, I wouldn’t call him gay either.
On a tangent, since it’s propably been answered a million times before and doesn’t merit its own thread: What’s the deal with Streisand?
He’s the best damned drag queen there ever was.
or should it be ;j ?
That last joke was my personaly payoff for reading this entire thread.
Thanks!
that should be personal, NOT personaly
:smack:
Insofar that Judy Garland came home and caught him having sex with another man in their bed, I wouldn’t call him straight either.
IIRC, Judy Garland’s last husband was bisexual as well.
On what authority is that Garland-Minnelli anecdote?
And had an affair with Peter Allen while the latter was married to li’l Liza, if I remember my gay scandal iconage correctly…