Why make an appointment if you're not going to keep it?

Somewhat lame rant, but, dammit, I’ve had a crappy morning, so I’m going to vent:

Yesterday my husband called the heating/cooling people to make an appointment to have them look at our heater. No emergency, but we had a problem, and we want it fixed. So he calls, sets up the appointment for 8 a.m. The lady calls to confirm yesterday, says “Hey, I’m calling to confirm your appointment tomorrow at 9 a.m.” I said, “Hmmm, I understood you were coming at 8 a.m.” She said, “Right, I’m calling to confirm your appointment.” I said, “Okay, I’ll see your people here at 8 a.m.,” wanting to make sure that she really meant 8 and not 9. She said okay and hung up. The fucking heating/cooling people show up this morning at 9:15! Goddamn it! My husband had already left for work, asking that I not let them in, which I totally agreed with. After all, if these jackasses want our business, they should at least have the good grace to show up approximately on time - I’m happy if they’re up to 20 minutes late, but fuck - and hour and 15 minutes?

Anyway, I ignored the door when they buzzed, then 15 minutes later their receptionist called to “let you know we’re on our way.” Then 20 minutes later, she called again to say they were on their way. At the third call, she was sounding more and more annoyed. So I picked up the phone, and it was the same woman I had talked to yesterday. I said, “I appreciate you calling; however, the gentleman who was to do the work didn’t show up on time - he was here an hour and 15 minutes late. My husband and I will be taking our business elsewhere. But thank you for calling back.” She got really ticked off, and started arguing with me that she had told me they would be late. I said, trying hard to remain calm, “I seem to recall you calling to tell me you were confirming for 9 a.m., then when I said the appointment was at 8 a.m., you agreed to the time.” She responded with, “Well, I told you they weren’t coming until 9,” and continued to state that, because she had originally called to say 9 a.m., I should have somehow known that the appointment was for 9 a.m., not 8, even though she agreed to that time. What??? So I simply said that I didn’t have to time to argue about the situation, and said goodbye, then hung up.

Then she called my husband at work and told him she had called yesterday and told me they would be late, indicating that I must have failed to give him the message. My husband politely disagreed, then the woman got mad at him, so he said, “Thanks for calling, but I’m taking my business elsewhere,” then dumped the phone.

Fuck. Why the hell would you make an appointment if you have no intention of showing up on time? I don’t expect this lady to bow and scrape before me, but she should have said something after I said I’d see them at 8, such as, oh, I don’t know, “Actually, we can’t make it at 8, it’ll have to be 9, unless you’d like to reschedule.” And then to call my husband when I disagreed with her to “tattle” on me? What’d she expect he’d say, “Yeah, my wife’s kind of an idiot. She probably knew you really meant 9 a.m., but agreed to the 8 a.m. appointment twice on accident. I’ll have to beat her when I get home.” What the fuck? For some reason the whole situation’s driving me batshit - not only did she not tell me they were showing up on time, which wasted at least a half hour of both my and my husband’s time while we waited, she bothered my husband after she got nowhere arguing with me, and she kept interrupting my work when I was on deadline (partly my fault, I know, for not answering the phone)! I fucking hate these people - waiting for them is worse than waiting in the doctor’s office, and arguing with them is even more frustrating.

I had a similar situation a couple of weeks ago. A local company was coming by to blow some more insulation into our attic.

First of all it took 3-4 weeks for them to even make the appointment, because they were so busy. Finally, they told us it would be Thursday. We spoke to them that night, because they didn’t show up. Then they said the only time they could do it would be Saturday.

So we said Okay, but it has to be EARLY because we have a bunch of company coming in the afternoon and we have things to do. They said fine, it would be around 9. They finally showed up at about 10:30 - no apology - nothing.

I had to leave to take the dog for a walk because I was so fucking irate. So they poked along, slow as molasses, made a HUGE mess, and finally left around 12:30.

God I was chapped. Just thinking about it makes me angry all over again.

Okay … cool blue water … I’ll calm down now …

We had a guy from the cable company come out because our DVR wasn’t working right.

He came 2 hours early.

My wife was mad because she wasn’t ready for him yet, but since I was still hadn’t left for work, I was able to deal with him.

Well, you gotta draw the line somewhere, but you do realize it might be difficult to find a company that’s less than an hour off schedule? I remember the multitude of pit threads complaining about workers who were 4 hours or more late or just never showed up!

My husband works on PC’s for a living and it’s difficult to predict what he’ll run into when he sits down at someone’s computer.
If one job takes longer than anticipated, it can create scheduling problems that ripple through the day.
And given that it’s also hard to foresee any possible traffic snarl-ups that he may run into going from office to office, unless you’re the very first client of the day, he may indeed be behind schedule when he gets to you.
I always make a point of calling the next client to let them know we’re running late and to apologize for inconvenience that they may experience, however.
That said, while I agree that you should have been better informed about the time delay and that the receptionist was completely wrong to argue with you after the fact, I personally wouldn’t lose any sleep over losing your business.

Sounds to me like you are being a little obtuse. If she said 9:00am, and you said “I’ll see you at 8:00am”, you really didn’t make any effort to clear up the misunderstanding, which she may not even have been aware of.

And what is with not opening the door when they do arrive? That’s just assholish.

What Fear Itself said. When she said 9:00, you should have said, “Hold on a second, we understood someone would be here at 8:00.” Instead, you tried to sneak it by them. Very poor form.

I’d have to rule offsetting penalties. While you expressed a preference for the 8 AM appointment, you obviously didn’t make it clear that if they showed up after your husband left for work then they’d be left standing on the porch in the cold, cold rain.

And what’s with your husband not wanting them inside unless he’s there? I’m pretty sure you’re capable of showing the guys where the heating unit is. And if they need to talk to the husband to get some obscure details, well, there’s always the phone.

Seems like you folks wasted everyone’s time needlessly.

Seems to me that overlyverbose did make it clear the appointment was originally set up for 8:00 AM and that she made it clear to the receptionist that the appointment was supposed to be 8:00 AM. The lady said ok, so I would have assumed she was confirming the 8:00 AM appointment too.

You’re right. The woman spoke to my husband first, confirming the appointment was for 8 a.m., then she called me the next day to confirm. I said that I thought it was 8 a.m. quite clearly. I don’t see that as being obtuse.

While I do understand that there are occasionally scheduling conflicts, she told my husband that we were the first appointment of the day - while they usually open at 7 a.m., for some reason they were starting appointments at 8 a.m. that morning.

But, I rather agree with Finagle here. Maybe she had a moment of ditziness, either in saying that she would have someone there at 9, or in saying yes when you said Ok, I’ll see you at 8AM.

My personal approach would have been to say something like: “Pardon? Nine o’clock? You mean eight, don’t you? They told my husband yesterday that the appointment would be for eight AM, not nine.” While it may seem obtuse, I like to be particularly verbose about such things. It seems as if you knew there was a misunderstanding, or a strong possibility that there would still be some confusion, but you didn’t try very hard to correct the problem. I know, the onus is on the business to get their shit straight (This is the pit right?) but I don’t see how you can be that surprised after the woman told you they wouldn’t be there til 9.

But you let it drop there, instead making sure that she understood it was at 8:00am. It is clear from what she said that, for whatever reason, she did not understand the discrepancy. Since you did, the burden is on you to clear it up. I would not have let it go until I heard her say “We will be there at 9:00am”. Accepting “OK” as proof that she understood that there was a discrepancy is obtuse.

But she spoke with both of us. And to both of us she said 8 a.m. Yes, she did say 9 a.m. once to me, but I thought I made it clear - twice - that the appointment was at 8 a.m.

Perhaps I’m being an unreasonable bitch here. Or maybe I’m giving her too much credit for her abilities to listen to people on the phone. Regardless, I suppose it’s a moot point. As jlzania mentioned, I doubt that she’ll give to shits whether or not we come back to her (in fact, I’m sure she’ll be happier if we don’t), and I’m also sure that the actual people who do the installation and repairs won’t care, either.

OK folks, here’s my report:

I got Schedule-Girl with two demerits for failing to confirm the time when a discrepency is discussed. Keeping in mind that continually talking to various people all day long about various times can cause brain-farts SG should still maintain presence of mind to see the possibility of a missunderstanding and should state the time a a confirmation instead of “OK”.

I got Overlyverbouse with one demerit for not realizing that the typical Schedule-Girl may actually, in-haste, confirm not what she heard but what she thought she heard and should be prompted to state the time in her confirmation instead of an “OK”.

I also remove 5 stylepoints form Overlyverbouse’s total for stubbornly believing that people called to her house must be on-time. Especially people who have to find their way through traffic and then assess and repair equipment in the same visit.

Sheesh! What do I have to do to get a gold star around here?!? :smiley:

Wait a minute, I probably don’t want to know…

I worked as an esitmator for a roofing customer. It is very difficult to get places on time. There is traffic, weather, and euipment to deal with. Each customer is individual. Some want to talk to you, some want to walk around on the roof with you, and some aren’t there and just want a phone call later.

It looks to me like you failed to confirm the appointment time. They went out of their way to let you know what was going on. It seems they made an effort to communicate with you.

It looks like this whole situation is based on your confusion if it was 8 or 9. You didn’t really do anything to help clear this up, instead you made a pact with your husband to give them a hard time.

Until now, I have expressed no confusion. But now I am confused. Please outline for me how I was confused as to the time of the appointment? Because I truly don’t EVER remember having stated that I did not know if the appointment time was 8 or 9. Perhaps, as a couple of people have mentioned, I should have had the woman repeat the correct time of the appointment to me on the phone; however, I was never confused as to the time of the appointment, nor was my husband. Also, I corrected the woman when she stated the incorrect time. It seems to me that you are confused, and perhaps should re-read the thread.

And where do you see me making a “pact” with my husband to give them a hard time? No, we didn’t answer the door when they arrived at 9:15. My husband was working, and so was I. While I do expect that a contractor may be a little late for an appointment (I’m fine with a half hour), if I have the first appointment of the day and both my husband and I have confirmed that they are to arrive at an appointed time, and they arrive an hour and a half later, I really don’t see how not giving them our business is participating in a conspiracy or pact against them, nor do I see not giving them my business as giving them a hard time. We have spoken to them them twice since, explaining the situation, the woman got angry with me, then called my husband and got angry with him. I suppose you may think this is an appropriate way to do business. I do not. I also have my own business, and if I behaved in such a manner after being late for an appointment, miscommunication or not, I can assure you I would no longer have a business.

P.S. - I meant to say that I’m fine with a contractor arriving a half hour late, or, if they can’t make the appointment until much later, if they call and tell me so I can say “don’t worry about it - I’ll be here,” or reschedule for a later date, I really don’t mind. I know contractors are busy, and that their clients behave differently; however, at least where I live, most contractors will call you or have their receptionists call you to tell you if they’ll be more than 30-40 minutes late.

I don’t get it. The OP clearly states:

I can’t guarantee it, but I think I would have thought they were going to show up at 8.

Last year I got a new fridge with an ice maker. I bought the service for them to come out and install the water (I didn’t and don’t understand plumbing). They say that the service people will call me at work on Thursday to set up an appointment for Friday.

Thursday comes and no call. At about 8:45 that night, my husband and I left home for a couple of hours. When we get home, there’s an angry message on the machine saying we’re supposed to call X number. It was 11:00 or so, so I didn’t call.

Next morning, about 8:45, I call the number. The person who answers was obviously asleep. She tells me to wait. There’s a bunch of muttering, doors slamming, a toilet flushing, and a man cussing about “this shit.” She comes back to the phone finally, grunts at me while I try to explain the situation, complains that we weren’t there to take her call, and says that someone will be there next week.

I ended up cancelling entirely and installing it myself. It was actually easy. Go me!

Then I take back what I said about not wanting to work with you-that’s a perfectly reasonable attitude.