It’s about time. Give people a reward for getting vaccinated and you’ll see a whole lot more people do it.
Lie about it, more likely.
It seems naive to think that anti-vaxxers who don’t take the pandemic seriously and wear masks only because they have been required to do so will look at this as a reward (for getting the vaccine) rather than a vindication.
Of course. I’m not talking about the hardcore anti-vaxxers. I’m talking about the middle 10 to 20 percent that might view this as an incentive and get us as a society to where we need to be in terms of possible herd immunity.
WV governor announces that fully vaccinated people plus two weeks are not subject to the state mask mandate. How in the hell that will be enforced is not mentioned.
Mask-wearing didn’t stick for very long after the Spanish flu; I doubt it will stick this time, either.
Since we don’t have a vaccine passport, and aren’t going to go that route, i see this as simply an awkward way to end the mask mandate for everyone. I can’t imagine that people who have not gotten around to getting vaccinated are going to continue wearing masks in public.
Nor did it stick around after the Asian flu pandemic of 1957-58.
Well I sure as hell am not going to let all my handmade calico facemasks that I crafted with loving care just sit unused forever. I’ll be glad not to have to wear them everywhere routinely, but I’m proud of them and won’t object to having occasional opportunities to show them off in the future when prudence recommends it. (However, I’m hoping it won’t become a worldwide life-or-death matter again. I’m not that fond of my masks.)
Well I was expressing a forlorn hope, since it’s already been politicized and even left-leaning sources have described it as “virtue signaling” in some contexts.
Incidentally, and this is off topic, I’m sick of how everything political gets these buzzwords now. Cancel culture, the big lie, snowflakes, social justice warrior etc etc. It shows how low the standard of discourse has dropped in the US.
I question that, as “virtue signaling” is a right-wing snarl word created specifically to attack left wingers for making moral arguments. Anyone I see using that word I assume is moderate at best.
So left-leaning sources that use the term are really moderates?
We are social animals. We gaze at a person’s face. Are they smiling, frowning, sticking their lower lip out, etc.? People advocating continued mask wearing simply discount this very ancient feature of human interaction. It is very discomforting, even on a subconscious level, for some people to lose this sort of interaction.
Funny how the people who so ardently believe in this seemingly have no problem with the other everyday accoutrement that routinely hides people’s faces: sunglasses. Like, yes, it’s pretty rude to be wearing sunglasses while talking one on one with someone while indoors but people routinely wear sunglasses in circumstances where there is no glare from the sun because they just want to be left fucking alone and don’t want a bunch of random strangers judging their face.
You would think if seeing people’s expressions were so important prior to 2019, there would have been some massive anti-sunglasses movement but most people didn’t seem to give a fuck as it was never a partisan issue.
I must have missed something in 2019. Did the government mandate that you wear sunglasses indoors then?
It was on the David pakman show. Is he right wing?
Granted, it was words to the effect of “there may be an aspect of virtue signaling for some people wearing masks outdoors” but he still used the term.
Not at all, it’s just that
a) there are more important considerations right now and
B) if someone wants to be more comfortable that’s their choice; I don’t need to interpret it as a “fuck you” to me.
The risk of contagion indoors is still high. You know there’s a pandemic right now?
And yet, here you are, posting on a text-only message board, where we have many fewer social signals than masked people, face to face, have.
I find the eyes more expressive than the mouth anyway, and of course we still have tone of voice, posture, and any number of other social clues. And if you are in the US, you and your adult friends have all had a chance to be vaccinated, and can safely take off your masks when you are together. (Or can do so in a couple of weeks.) Do you really care all that much about the facial expression of the clerk at the supermarket? So long as he’s pleasant and does the job, I’m happy with his service.

We are social animals. We gaze at a person’s face. Are they smiling, frowning, sticking their lower lip out, etc.? People advocating continued mask wearing simply discount this very ancient feature of human interaction.
And yet pre-pandemic I’d walk a local trail wearing headphones, sunglasses, and avoiding eye contact. Another plus for masks.

We are social animals. We gaze at a person’s face. Are they smiling, frowning, sticking their lower lip out, etc.? People advocating continued mask wearing simply discount this very ancient feature of human interaction. It is very discomforting, even on a subconscious level, for some people to lose this sort of interaction.
Heh, bunch of introverts replying saying seeing people’s faces isn’t important anyway. Not to them, maybe.
I’m looking forward to being able to ditch the masks once enough people are vaccinated. So uncomfortable and annoying.
Maybe, in the not too distant future, it will be socially acceptable for extroverts to remove their masks, and for introverts to leave theirs on.