So… when would the comparisons be apt? At what point?
You already know the answer to this.
Afterward?
Apparently.
This notion that the Nazis were some kind of unique phenomenon, a cartoonishly evil fluke never to be seen again, is incredibly false. You’re blind if you believe it. The Nazis were people who thought they were doing the right thing, and they were enabled by a whole lot of Germans who maybe didn’t go quite so far in their beliefs but why not let them try? Acting like it can’t possibly happen again (and CERTAINLY not HERE!) is just begging it to happen again.
When someone starts doing something like forcibly removing citizens from their homes and gassing them on an industrial scale.
I’ve seen nothing remotely like that or even the beginnings of it.
No, I think that Trump deserves harsh criticism for separating families as a policy aimed specifically at punishing them.
I don’t think it’s your intention, but essentially you’re saying that any families torn apart at the border don’t have a right to complain because more people were affected by a more famous travesty. It’s not productive, or compassionate for that matter.
I’m not answering for the other poster, but everyone has a right to complain for any wrong he or she perceives. Everyone. The objection is the comparison to Nazi Germany and the deliberate killing of 6 million people. That is not what is going on at the border.
^that is correct. And the quoted post is a gross distortion of what I said, and it only proves my point about over-the-top hyperbole.
If only we could argue about something very important that wouldn’t make anybody mad.
Yet.
I see value in speaking up before it gets that far, but you do you.
This is a serious question: Do you actually, really and truly believe that is the goal that Trump is pursuing? Do you thin that if given complete control that Trump would be gassing Mexicans and Muslims?
I think that is extraordinary. I don’t particularly like Trump, but my God, that is such a ridiculous proposition.
I personally believe that if he had his way, every Muslim on the planet would be exterminated and every non-white American would be either deported or gassed. There are no limits to the hate that drives him. Those that are willing to overlook his outrageous bigotry and hatred for the sake of getting a precious tax cut or being able to maintain enough firepower for a small nation will have blood on their hands as well.
It does not have to get to that point for me to feel he’d glibly destroy the things and ways I value in this country, and put me and my family at risk because of how we look and how we write our name, just for the sake of hearing his “base” cheer about how Great and Strong they are.
By my reading, various rhetoric of Trump and prominent Trump allies aren’t that far from Nazi rhetoric in the early 30s, before Kristallnacht and other violent policies/practices were instituted – lots of use of terms like “infestation”, “vermin”, “animals” (and their German counterparts). The targets are different but the language strikes me as relatively similar. Even if there’s only a 1% chance Trump and his allies become 1% as bad as Hitler and the Nazis (personally I’d only characterize that risk qualitatively, as “much higher than any recent presidency”), that’s a high enough risk of mass suffering and atrocities that every decent person in America should be speaking out loud against it each and every day.
You had me down for number 2 until you mentioned “someone else taking all the headlines.” Trump’s dominant trait is narcissism. Whatever gets him the greatest adulation will be his course of action.
Reminds me of a Tweet I saw somewhere:
2016: Come on, do you think he’s going to start putting people in concentration camps?
2018: First of all, I object to you calling them concentration camps
Why does his base support him? He’s delivering on promises he ran on and the economy is doing very well, partly due to tax cuts and reversing many of Obama’s economic policies and regulations.
The never-ending assault from the media, and stupid actions from Democratically elected officials telling people the hound elected Republicans or appointed officials outside of work, I think will only embolden Trump’s base to turn out in greater numbers than expected.