Which says nothing. Obama is about as “liberal” as Reagan was.
Yeah, neither the Post, nor the NY Times are liberal. The Times was used as a mouthpiece to plant fake stories about Saddam’s WMD plan that helped lead us into war and the Post’s Bob Woodward wrote a hagiographic book about Bush. They both have a pro-business slant that was obvious in some of their coverage of OWS.
blows his vuvuzela for freedom
The article tries to cover some very broad turf. It even contradicts it’s own premise by saying
FTR, I started this thread. I asked a simple question with NO bias. Others from both sides have dumped loads of steaming propaganda and vitriol. You haven’t a clue which wing I claim, if any.
It is entertaining, though!
False dichotomy! 
You know I don’t know big words like that. 
And today on another board, I saw someone claim that Reagan was a RINO who raised taxes 11 times and not a true patriot like he was. :rolleyes: Just shows you how far right the right has moved.
I don’t know if some people are, but the Times is a much smaller paper, isn’t it? It rarely turns up in my news searches, while the Post turns up regularly. Wikipedia has it that the Post may have moved to the right in response to the Times.
Obama isn’t a liberal, true-- I’m sure he wouldn’t describe himself as one-- but his endorsement (twice) shows that the Post at least isn’t a party line Republican paper.
Do you people actually read The Washington Post? I do. I’ve read at least 95% of the issues over the past twenty-two years. The Post is certainly not conservative. It’s not extremely liberal by any means, but it’s certainly reasonably liberal by any American standard and even somewhat liberal by the standard of most countries. What you’re doing is picking a position here and there, exaggerating the Post’s viewpoint on it to make it sound conservative, and deciding that because the Post isn’t as liberal as you are it must be conservative.
By the way . . .
Average Circulation at the Top 5 U.S. Sunday Newspapers
The New York Times 1,265,839
LA Times 850,267 102,494
Houston Chronicle 459,231
Chicago Tribune 755,265
Washington Post 688,576
The US newspapers with the largest daily circulations are:
- Wall St.Journal
- USA Today
- New York Times
- L.A.Times
- New York Daily News
The New York Times I view as solidly centrist, the Washington Post leans conservative. I don’t find either of them liberal, and I could not name a large daily paper that is. If you want liberal or progressive views, in the US, you would need to look for “alternative” weeklies.
There is a consistent argument from the right that mainstream US media is biased to the left. This argument has not just zero, but less than zero factuality.I read the NY Times to find out what the centrists are thinking.
This one fact, that right wingers think the media is biased left, is an example of why the Dope seems full of so called liberals. Just not believing provable nonsense makes you “liberal”, apparently.
Do you actually read the Post regularly? Are you just going by what someone has told you about what it said about a single topic? You seem to think that you’re in the center and anyone less liberal than you must be conservative.
you talking to me?
if so, you can assume that anyone to the left of me is certifiably nuts. Everyone else is to the right.
Yeah, it’s practically the Daily Worker.
I didn’t consider myself a liberal when I joined, but now I do. But the only opinions of mine that have changed is that I am no longer pro-life (though I’m also not pro-choice) and I’ve gotten much less homophobic. As far as everything else, I’ve always been liberal, but I thought I was conservative, and would have said so in those polls. Why? Because, around here in the Bible belt, Christians equal Republican, and Republican equals conservative.
And I’ve found that most people I talk to are also fairly liberal, once you get rid of those two things. Sure, they grasp onto Fox News sound bytes, but, without them, what they say is pretty liberal, by U.S. standards, at least.
This board is made of critical thinkers who realize how liberal they are. And it’s actively hostile to those positions I mentioned earlier, which tends to push off anyone who would identify as conservative. And, yes, we are actively hostile towards the Republican party, which contains a lot of conservatives. So we do push them away, but not really because they are conservative.
I didn’t consider myself a liberal when I joined, but now I do. But the only opinions of mine that have changed is that I am no longer pro-life (though I’m also not pro-choice) and I’ve gotten much less homophobic. As far as everything else, I’ve always been liberal, but I thought I was conservative, and would have said so in those polls. Why? Because, around here in the Bible belt, Christians equal Republican, and Republican equals conservative.
And I’ve found that most people I talk to are also fairly liberal, once you get rid of those two things. Sure, they grasp onto Fox News sound bytes, but, without them, what they say is pretty liberal, by U.S. standards, at least.
This board is made of critical thinkers who realize how liberal they are. And it’s actively hostile to those positions I mentioned earlier, which tends to push off anyone who would identify as conservative. And, yes, we are actively hostile towards the Republican party, which contains a lot of conservatives. So we do push them away, but not really because they are conservative.
We push them away because they are stupid idiots.
Witty replies like that are scary smart.
The smart idiots are welcome however.
Even the brilliant sometimes are too lazy to come up with something witty.
Havent stumbled upon City Data Forum..