Why the hate for the guy who built a yacht out of concrete and sailed it for 1000 days, alone?

Yes, except I am trying not to think about his penis.

A sorta aside. One of my interest is “micro cruising”, which is sailing in what most people consider rather small sailboats.

One forum had a guy on it. Named Hurley or Harley or something like that. He was going to sail around the world. Without stoping at any port for anything. And no at sea resupplies either. By himself.

All that sounds pretty impressive in itself. But he was going to do in a homebuilt boat. Something like an 8 foot long homebuilt boat. Fortunately his boat sank the day he launched it because for many various reasons I and many others were pretty sure this was way past risky stunt and damn close to virtual suicide.

He pretty much sounded like an idiot from day one. He did get idiotier as time went on though. And once Soanya left and the solitude set in it was a rapid decent to idiotest.

This guy? http://www.admiraldinghy.com/

IMHO, folks see some guy do something that they couldn’t possibly do in a lifetime, and so they latch onto one of the many easy targets for criticism so that they can bring him down a notch and pat themselves on the back and say how good they are.

For example, each complaint about not aborting the mission when his child was born carries an implicit smug “I would never do that”.

I think it’s kind of cool what he did.

bolding mine.

I was going to respond to your HO, but then remembered that **Otara **already did.

True—some people couldn’t care less. But those people probably wouldn’t be bothered to even say anything, since there are a billion other “meh” moments in life competing for people’s snarky responses.

Regardless, I believe that the desire to imply “I wouldn’t do that” in a smug way drives many annoying human interactions. I’m sure I do this, and I have caught myself. For example, years ago I would respond to offers of alcohol in public situations by saying “I don’t drink”, but when I heard others saying this, I realized it sounds smug and superior—these days I just say “no thanks”

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa. Now Mr. cement boat has to start over to break the record.

That is so funny! Man I love those outfits. And his writing is a hoot! That guys just a bit more flamboyant than Harley. But I suspect his boat is better built and designed. And he plans to actually stop at ports on a regular basis.

Harely was going to go without every touching land or resupplying! I followed many threads about his construction and design of the boat as well as his sailing and eating and provisioning plans. There were plenty of people talking with him that really know their stuff. I got the impression that while he was sharp and had some good ideas, he also had some pretty bad ones and could NOT be persuaded that somebody else might be right. When it comes to stuff like this a hundred good ideas do not make a few bad ones any less fatal.

Like I said, his tiny craft sank the first day. And not only that, folks had to take up a collection to get his ass back home. Who the heck starts a voyage like that without enough money to get home? Somebody that ain’t quite right thats who.

As for the OP’s question. Imagine living in Harley’s boat for over a year by yourself.

Here it is:

http://smallcraftadvisor.com/content/seabiscuit/index.htm

I searched, but could not find any info on the launch, the sinking, etc. Do you have any good links?

Agreed that Admiral Dighy is bizarre. His boat also sank but last I hear this didn’t faze him in the least. His family’s some pissed though..he says he’s spent $200,000 on the dinghys - his kid’s inheritance…:eek:

I get what you mean. I kvetched about the same thing in a recent thread which asked “what are you totally ignorant about?” I know I do that, too. Why do we have the urge to take people down a notch? I guess to prop ourselves up.

Thank you for your reply.

This guy spent 3 years on a boat. He didn’t crack the atom or go to Mars. Everyone on Earth is more or less capable of doing what he did. The reason they don’t is that they realize there is virtually nothing of value in what he did. If someone started offering billions of dollars for doing this, everyone would be on the docks signing up, and most of them would finish.

You need to work on your smug detector. I would never drink an American beer = Smug. I would never abandon my new born child for two fucking years != smug.

Sadly, “I would never …” has preceded the actual act I said I wouldn’t do on more than one occasion in my life. It’s a hard expression to use without knowing the intimate details of the person’s situation (much more than is filtered through the many biases of the media).

I will admit that I thought being away from a child for that long sounded weird, until folks brought up the fact that military families are often separated, and people do still go off to distant lands in search of work. Then I questioned whether it is wrong per se to be away from one’s child for that time.

There are worse things that could be happening to the child, regardless of whether Dad is home or not.

This ones a little better, but it kind of tells the story backwards, starting with Harley going home in defeat. There are couple linked articles down at the bottom that are an interesting read.

Glancing through that reminded me of one thing. Harley figured he could/needed to go 69 miles per day on average. For low powered boats or sail boats there is a thing called hull speed. Take the length of the hull in feet. Take the square root of that number. Then multiply it by 1.4. Thats your TOP speed. Now if you boat is on the skinny side (like say its 10 times longer than wide that 1.4 number will be a fair bit higher). If its fat boat like Harley’s where its 8 foot long and 6 foot wide, that 1.4 number will be a fair bit lower. Now when you have REALLY skinny hulls like a catamaran or a sculling boats or something like 5 HP per 100 lbs of boat/payload then this hull speed thing falls apart. Keep in mind I am just recalling this off the top of my head so don’t take the number too exactly.

Anyhow. So Harley’s top speed would have been between 3 and 4 miles per hour. Probably more like 3. Maybe even a bit less than that because the hull shape is also important and I doubt it was well optimized. So in 24 hours he could just make his goal. Then keel in mind when sailing the direction you sail is not always the direction you need to go. Or in other words, you often zig zag back and forth crossing along a line that defines your desired overall path. Which means if you start at point A and end at B, while those two may be X miles apart, The amount of distance your boat travel in the water will be more.

Harleys math just did not work IMO. He needed perfect winds for pretty much the whole over a year long trip to succeed. And if he had a bad day it wasn’t like he could go extra super fast or have more than 24 hours in the next day to make up for it. I don’t even think he tested his boat in a local lake or big river first to see if he could reach his theorectical top speed/needed speed when conditions were good with the boat he built.

Ohh, where do I go to read about Admiral Dingy’s “sinking”? I think he spent most of that 200k on his fabulous outfits.

I see what you did there.

Hi Nippon. Yeah, I can’t see this as meaningful scientific research. However, the notion of setting up a control group is a little funny (to me).

Would that be the person who spends 1000 days at sea without a boat?

A guy who spends 1000 days on land?

I don’t think that throughout human history that going off to war is automatically equivalent to “serving your country.” Furthermore, there were people who left home for all kinds of reasons – exploration, fortune-hunting, job-hunting whatever. I don’t think that being an absent parent while accomplishing some goal (whether or not it’s a goal that everyone else in the world approves of) is per se reprehensible.

But, yeah, this guy seems like a new-age goofball.