There was foreign investment from 711-1492. 
Whether that is true or not depends entirely on what you provide to back up your claim, you know. This isn’t a Trump rally, where you can say any damn thing that pops into your mind and the crowd shouts back “Yeh!! What he said!!!”
What, that some muslims bitch about the crusades? Well to be fair to most muslims its more accurate to say SOME “leaders” in the muslim community bitch about it. And that spreads around.
Seriously, this issue is self defining. If SOMEBODY wasn’t bitching about the crusades you guys would be going “what the fuck are talking about, whats this crusade thing of which you speak”?
The very fact you aren’t doing that is proof somebody is. And I doubt your sources are a bunch of christians talking about how we kicked the muslims asses way back when.
Why are we still harping on that Jews killed Jesus thing? It was a long time ago.
Now that was funny.
Maybe Greece is looking to invest?
The Crusades’ damage to the Arab world was insignificant compared to the Mongols.
If the Crusades screwed up anyone’s civilization, it was the Byzantine Empire, which the Muslim world should be grateful for softening it up for the kill.
Well, no cites yet…but you’ve got those goalposts dancing a dandy little jig, I have to say.
More and more, it looks like it was the OP that made the smart move here.
Uhh, maybe the OP isn’t a looser but has a real a life and a real job and can’t post to the Dope more than in the morning and evening.
When he hasn’t come back in a day or two maybe you can do your celebration dance.
Was this a recent talking point spewed by a right-wing pundit?
Don’t touch the irony, son-it’ll burn ya.
I got there before you (I got there when I made the post). Of course you are too smarter by half to get that.
Yes, because our only sources for historical events are contemporary people complaining about them. :dubious:
That’s sweet.
Gonna support this thread with some cites…or are we still relying on those voices you hear?
Looser than what? Just supply some links to some recent “harping.” (“Harping” sounds kinda Irish–my people have a tradition of “forgive & forget.”!)
A local Greek Orthodox church has an annual Greek Festival. Lovely food, music, etc. The tour of their lovely church includes a pamphlet explaining their religion. They are still not over the Fourth Crusade (1202-1204) during which Crusaders sacked the city of Constantinople.
No, the Greeks aren’t “over it.”
I think it’s just an easy and unimaginative metaphor, something that everyone can understand, the West = Crusaders = bad.
Personally I always wondered why they don’t spit the same vitriol against the Mongols, who committed atrocities on even greater scale than the Crusader’s massacre in Jerusalem when they sacked Baghdad, rolling the Caliph in a carpet and trampling him to death and leaving a trail of devastation the effects of which were felt for centuries. In a GQ thread about it was posited that the likely explanation is that some Mongols eventually at least converted to Islam, whereas ‘the west’ is still Christian.
Okay.
I’ll say this.
As God as my witness (I thought turkeys could fly also) WHEN I typed that I knew I was lumping my loser over posting behind with yours. I’ll throw in my soul and everybody I ever gave even half a rats ass soul to burn in eternity if I am lying about that.
Of course, YOU think you are more clever and caught me out or something.
Now a REAL doper would have made fun of themselves and me in some clever statement of some sort. But alas you failed to seize such an opportunity.
I gave you nice setup and you screwed the pooch.
As of yet, those who say that this incessant harping is going on have yet to show that it is even happening at all, let alone at the volume suggested by the OP.
Good point.
To simplify the point I’d say the west is still the “west” and still “christian” but when it comes to the moguls, who self identifies as “monguls”?
Don’t give a flying fuck and/or a rat’s ass about your hand-waving and goal-post shifting anymore. Do you have any evidence to back up the OP’s and your claim, or not?