Why was it unexpected that Darth Vader would tell Luke he is his Father?

“Terrible stench, this is. Deal with it, you must.”

“You don’t want to sell me death sticks.”
"…I don’t wanna sell you death sticks.”
“You want to go home and rethink your life.”
"…I wanna go home and rethink my life.”
“You’ll take up babysitting, change some diapers…”

Dug would definitely agree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui9Mm63zpfE

That’s a good point, but I think there’s a statute of limitations for such things. As the years and decades go by, the average person bears less and less responsibility for protecting spoilers in casual conversation, particularly when the spoiler has already infiltrated popular culture the way “I am your father” has.

Citizen Kane was released almost 80 years ago—should I watch my mouth when talking about the ending of that movie? Charles Schulz famously put the spoiler into a Peanuts strip, and that was back in 1973. Sure, if I’m recommending the movie to a friend to hasn’t seen it, I’ll won’t mention the ending. But if I’m chatting with film fans on the internet, I’m not going to worry about it.

I vaguely recall something—maybe in one of the novelizations—about how Luke and Leia had to be separated to make them harder to find … something about how having two Force-sensitive siblings together would make them more noticeable to somebody like Vader. I may be imagining that, though.

I don’t know why Leia got the privileged upbringing, while Luke had to go to miserable Tatooine. Personally, I think the safest move would be to put them on different but equally obscure planets. Vader didn’t know about the kids, but if he had, I think he would have assumed that as the children of two VIPs, they would be living in luxury and going to private schools and getting new cars on their 16th birthday and all that stuff.

I got to figure, after watching his best friend murder everyone he knew and destroy everything he valued, Obi-Wan didn’t want a kid getting in the way of his planned ~10 year bender.

Hell, maybe he’d already started, which is why he thought hiding on Tatooine would make sense.

That must have been one hellacious Leaving-Las-Vegas level bender to age 30 or 40 years in one decade. I always figured Yoda was sapping life force from his underlings to extend his life span.

That is a slight misinterpretation of the scene. Obi-Wan was not, in his own mind, making up a bullshit story. He may have paused for a moment to consider what to say, but what he said was the truth, as he saw it. Darth Vader was not the Anakin Skywalker that Obi-Wan knew from earlier days, even though the body was mostly the same. He had killed Anakin in a metaphorical sense, destroying the previous person and replacing him with a monster. It is just like the way the tarot card Death is not interpreted as mortality but as transformation.

Give him a break! Tatooine has moisture farms, not moisturizer farms!

(Also, Guinness was 62 when he filmed Star Wars - which is pretty close to how old Obi-Wan should have been in-universe. Figure that he’s 18-20 in Phantom Menace, early 30s in AotC, and late 30s by the end of Revenge of the Sith - 20 years later, in Star Wars, he’d be maybe mid fifties at the youngest, 59 or 60 at the oldest.)

Fair enough. As pastimes go, it’s benign.

Just spitballing here, but;

  • He wanted to make sure Luke would grow up to be the kind of person who could handle the responsibility of wielding the Force
  • He was waiting for a sign that the time was right to train him
  • He didn’t believe one Jedi, even the son of Skywalker, stood a chance against the Empire
  • He felt responsible for Anakin’s fall and didn’t trust himself to take on another student

By ESB, Luke isn’t a teenager; he was 19 or 20 in Star Wars, and a few years have gone by.

Well, and the other point was that Tatooine was one of those shithole planets, featuring wretched hives of scum and villainy, so why would Darth Vader even want to go there? He grew up there, got the hell out and never looked back. He was on the imperial thingy that captured Leia in the neighborhood and could have gone down there and personally supervise rooting out the droids, but, what, go back there again? Eww.

ISWYDT! :vulcan_salute:

Christ, even when he was a Jedi, he couldn’t be bothered to go back to Tatooine to rescue his mom from freaking slavery until the Force started punching him in the head about it

That’s a legitimate LOL here. It seems like such a modern expression, not one from a long, long time ago.

Guys have been bragging about their rides for a long time.
“Look at the fetlocks on ol’ Blaze; I trimmed them myself!”

He’s actually looking up at the Falcon, but he’s definitely doing it skeptically.

Powers &8^]

“Bah! In my day spaceships were all SHINY! Ooh, it’s a ‘distressed’ starship! It’s ‘grunge’! Bunch of beat-up-looking old JUNK if you ask me!”

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Charles Schulz famously put the spoiler into a Peanuts strip, and that was back in 1973. [/quote]

Carla gave it away on Cheers! too.