Fair warning, this thread will likely contain spoilers or plot points from previous books.
After finishing the latest book, and seeing how the big V (don’t think this needs to be in a spoiler tag as it is a recurrent theme in all the books) escapes again and is planning a new wizard war, I was wondering what you folk would see as the next big plot points.
Harry goes back to the Dursley’s (every year it seems) and is tormented by the entire family. I think this is a given. I guess that really isn’t a plot point but I have some other issues from here in the spoiler box.
Was it just me or did Dudley see the Dementor’s in the current book as Harry? Later on it was mentioned that only wizarding folk could see Dementors and muggles and squibs aren’t able. I think in the next set of books Dudley and possibly Petunia will develop some rudimentary powers and Mr. Dursley will freak out about it. I see Dudley wanting to use the powers but I don’t see him being allowed. If he manages to get into Hogwarts he will wind up in Slytherin just because I don’t see his character developing outside of the general menace.
Luna Lovegood (I love her) will play a more prominent wizarding roll. She will be the primary love interest of Neville and will drop out in middle of the year to have his babies. Well not really, but I think her and Neville would make a good pair. They are both quirky and likeable. However, Neville was written as too much of of a doofus in the beginning. He will need a lot more fleshing out to make it a good pair since even though Luna is kooky she is competent and smart.
3. I think Neville will partner very strongly with Harry as an Auror. I am not sure if it can really happen though. He shows great promise in Defense against the Dark Arts. It would be very touching if he went to work as a doctor in the magical maladies clinic and found a cure for his parents but he doesn’t really seem like a very strong student. We will leave that to Hermione. Especially now that we see that she is trying out her humanitarian projects with the house elves.
Who will the next Defense of the Dark Arts teacher be and what will that person be like? The current books DADA teacher is great and creepy but the position seems cursed. I am hoping that Lupin (wasn’t he the only really competent one so far) comes back and teaches wonderfully. I also hope that he starts romancing the female teachers (or Hagrid… Lupin and Hagrid sitting in a tree… wishful thinking.). On the Hagrid note, I think Hagrid would try to make Lupin into a pet, it really seems a match made in heaven on his part.
5. I think Malfoy the younger will start getting in trouble with the law. It would be great to have all that has been happening to Harry come back upon Malfoy. I think that he will be questioned by the Ministry because all the Death Eaters (isn’t his father a Death Eater or am I mixing terms?) has “escaped” from prison because the Dementors are now in full employ of Voldemort. Well, the previous sentence is still speculation but it was a strong implication in the last book.
I think it was just you. My sister has the book now so I can’t check, but I am pretty sure Dudley had no idea what was going on. He could feel the presence of the Dementors, which we already knew Muggles could do, but he did not seem to see them because he did not know that one was trying to kiss him. And from everything he said back at home, it seems he was not aware of the presence of other beings and thought Harry alone was to blame for everything.
[spoiler]Book Six will begin around the time Harry gets his OWL results. He will have done poorly in History of Magic and Astronomy, but quite well in everything else, including Potions, to the consternation of Snape.
The relationship between Snape and Harry will become even more complicated.
Ron and Hermione will become more aware of their feelings for each other.
I predict that, in Book 6, a major character will die at the end of every single chapter, meaning that book 7 will feature nothing but expository dialouge between Dumbledore and Harry.
Luna Lovegood is going to be an auror! And what’s all this furor over Tonks? She was boring. All she did was change her hair. Ron and Hermy better get started on that romance soon. Snape should have a crack at teaching the Defense Against the Dark Arts. Harry and Snape have got to understand each other better; their grudge is totally annoying. Dumbledore will author a book on parenting teens. The crystal is misting up…
Since the war has begun, I hope that it does not stick to the “time out” story device while Harry hangs out at the Dursleys. Really, if there is now a war do you think Mr. V will just wait until Harry returns to school to launch an overly complicated plan to kill him?
Book 6 will end with another showdown between Dumbledore and the V’ster. This time, the V’ster wins, killing Dumbledore. Harry witnesses this and recieves, or is told verbally, something very important by Dumbledore in his dying gasps. Personal motive for Harry in final battle.
Book 6 final showdown will also allow Neville the chance to revenge his parents. (I think there is a 50% chance it’ll be in Book 7)
Book 6 will end with Ron/Hermoinne becoming fully aware of romantic feelings towards each other setting up a long summer separation and much anticipation for the next school year.
Anyone want to start some speculation on Book 7? Death of Dumbledore opens the door for Snape as DADA teacher. Harry & Ginny romance may lead to post-story wedding and Harry gaining a family!
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Ron and Hermoine are pretty much a given, I think.
If Harry ends up in any sort of relationship at all (which is a fairly big “if” in itself, especially considering Rowling’s more recent statements on the subject of Harry’s mortality), I see him ending up with Luna. Luna’s initial fixation on “Ronald” seems to have faded by the end of OotP, and Harry’s initial dislike of Luna seems to have likewise evaporated. The scene between the two at the end of the book is definitely foreshadowing something significant, even if it isn’t romance-related in the slightest.
Neville will likely become an Auror. He will certainly face off with Bellatrix eventually.
Speaking of Neville, I don’t subscribe to the common theory that his mother was attempting to send him a “message” via candy wrappers- I think it was nothing more than a simple (and extremely effective) way of demonstrating the incredible suffering that Neville has gone through. He saves every wrapper he gets because it is his mother, his insane mother, who gave it to him, and because it gives him hope that she is slowly making progress (remember that Dumbledore originally noted that Neville’s parents did not recognize him at all).
I agree with the above posters who expect something to come of the Petunia subplot, although I’m not so sure that she and/or Dudley will actually start manifesting wizard powers.
And, of course: Dumbledore’s doomed. Harry will never truly be in danger until the old superwizard is out of the picture.
I tend to think the pairings will be:
Ronb and Hermione
Harry and Luna
Neville and Ginny (at any rate, Neville fancies her)
I expected Dumbledore to die in this one, but next one seems a sure bet. Though, if the picture of the old OotP is right, we can expect a lot more casualties this time around.
Draco can go either way at this point. I’ve even seen it speculated that he will undergo some trauma and join Harry’s side. I’m hoping this is not so. He’s a good foil for Hermione should there be a ‘final battle.’
I just want to see more Neville- I think that he will really step up, especially since he needs to get his own wand now. I imagine that he will overcome his ‘block’(WOT fans, don’t get mad) and become a formidable enemy for V. He’s also got the second round with Bellatrix ahead of him. Payback!
For a DaDa teacher, I think the most likely suspects are: arisu’s guess- Dumbledore; Tonks (since everyone but me seemed to find her interesting, so her character is bound to reappear and develop more) ; Or perhaps one of Ron’s oldest brothers so there will be new can’t get out from his brothers’ shadows angst.
I also wonder who will be returning to school in the fall. Surely someone is going to protest that the children of death eaters are at the school. If werewolves don’t make suitable teachers, someones knowingly connected to Voledmort’s followers are bound to make waves. I’m sure Dumbledore will proclaim them all welcome, as in the end of book IV, but there will be upset parents, right? And what about Fred and George? Are they really going to get through life without having finished school?
Neville only does really well in herbology. He doesn’t have the grades to be an auror, and I doubt he can make it up in time to get the needed NEWTS now since only two years of school are left. I’m thinking it will be revealed in either book 6 or 7 that his keen interest in herbology is because he’s convinced that there’s a cure for his folks amongst the plants. I see him as headed in the direction of wanting to become a healer rather than an auror. He might be good a DaDa, but he’s not the temperment for it - he’s the type to be more concerned about cures than revenge. There’s something shakespearian in the juxpostion of his and Harry’s characters…
I don’t see Ron and Hermione ever getting together. It’s like far too many real-life friendships among people growing up: they sort of kind of have feelings that never are really explored. I’m not even convinced that Hermione has any feelings for Ron. Or even Harry. I suspect, however, that throughout books 6 and 7, Mrs. Weasley is going to push Ginny towards Harry, hoping that they’ll take a shine to each other, thus allowing her to adopt him as a son-in-law if not son.
I’m really curious about Harry and Petunia’s future relationship. Now that Harry knows that his aunt has actually been keeping him safe from Voledmort, will he finally show a bit of gratitude? He may not have received a loving upbringing, but he might well be dead if she’d dumped him on someone else. Maybe they’ll get along (at least show grudging acceptance of each other) when he goes home, and not just because his aunt and uncle were threatened by members of the order.
Harry, upon being captured once again by Voldemort, will ask if he is expected to talk. Voldemort, of course, will respond with, “No, Mr. Potter, I expect you to die.”
Am I the only one who sees the twins as toast eventually? They seem to be pretty gifted wizards in their own right. A major wizard war will definately see them contributing…and their brashness could lead to their downfall.
I’m still hoping for the Ginny/ Harry coupling. Can’t think of a better match for Harry…and the benifit is that he will officially become a member of the Weasley’s, who he obviously admires and might be a little jealous of.
As for the DODA teacher…I’m betting on Tonks…and I think Harry will eventually be the permanent teacher by the end of it all. I can see it now…Harry defeats the big V. Decides that the job of Auror doesn’t hold the same blamour as it did, especially after almost being killed by the ultimate bad guy. He settles into a quiet life at Hogwarts, regaling his students with his past adventures…and finally being the only DODA teacher that doesn’t come to an untimely end.
Also, put my vote in for Dumbledor biting it in the next book.
Macgonagil (sp?) will become the new headmaster.
The annoying Weasley,the one that works at the Ministry of Magic…will turn out to be a Death Eater. It only makes sense. He’s power hungry. Voldemort would definately appeal to him
I also think we should look out for Sirius in a future book. His death was left too open for me. Plus, I think it’s significant that Harry checked out the mirror at the end.
One last thing…I think there will be a traitor among the Order. Someone will act as a spy for the big V, much like Snape was for The Ministry. And I don’t think it’s Snape…but everyone will blaim it on him. This will cause Snape to leave the Order, coming back just in time to help out during the big fight at the end.
I would really like to see Harry get some more action with the ladies.
But Luna Lovegood? Come on!!! Shes like…ugly and creepy. Totally not Harry’s partner!
I hope the Dursleys get whats coming to them.
I hope Draco gets whats coming to him
I hope Snape lightens up.
I hope Harry kills someone.
I hope its not another book 5, where the protagonists have a horrible life. (seriously, that book made me very sad)
I think Harry will one day become Hogwarts Principal.
I hope he can go live with Lupin. Because thats the closest thing to family hes got…:rolleyes:
I hope Snape lightens up too, and I hope something good happens for him as he doesn’t seem to have had so great a life… though that doesn’t excuse his tendency to take it out on other people.
But I think it’s very unlikely that Snape will survive all seven books.
I think that Ron and Hermione won’t get together, since Hermione doesn’t seem to show any kind of feelings for Ron at all, (I mean, who would?)
Harry won’t get together with anyone, since his prophecy effectively says that he won’t be able to live properly until he’s killed Voldemort
One of the twins will start making better prank things by using the dark arts and start to become corrupted, eventually leading to a split.
Snape will continue to give Harry occlumency lessons, and from reading his mind so much will gradually start to understand him.
Tonks does not seem qualified enough to become the next DADA teacher, I’m thinking that Snape may finally have the chance to take up that role and a new potions mistress will come to Hogwarts. (Trying to guess a Rowlingesque name : Belladonna perhaps) Probably with a Morticia Addams feel to her character.
Ron still seems like a complete gimp with no intelligence or character depth. Hopefully there will be some improvement there, he’s just a waste of space at the moment.
The main plot from Voldemort will be a plot to kill Dumbledore - probably using Harry in some way (polyjuice someone to look like Snape - take an occlumency lesson with Harry to read his mind, then polyjuice to look like Harry, go to see Dumbledore projecting both Harry’s visage and memories so that even the great DD will be fooled - Harry blamed, etc, etc) Heck, that’s what I’d do if I was Voldemort, anyway
Draco Malfoy will stop being so “heh-heh” annoyingly evil & will become more of a Death-Eater.
Hogwarts will become more divided as students reflect the war outside Hogwarts between Death-Eaters & resisters-of-Voldemort. Students will cont. to discriminate against Mudbloods.
Harry and Voldemort will begin to even more closely mirror each other’s strengths/talents. Harry will discover hidden talents within himself.
Hermione will stop being so pukingly perfect and make some errors in judgment. She will also try to unionize the houseelves. Hermione, Harry, and Ron will take less classes together, but Harry and Ron will play on the Gryffindor Quidditch team together.
Harry will sacrifice an important part of himself in the war against Voldemort, probably his innocence. Someone in book 6 or 7 will betray Harry, like Scabbers did to Harry’s father.
Understanding that he cannot always play the hero, Harry will watch someone suffer at the hands of Voldemort or his followers. Harry may be called on to save Dumbledore and fail, but someone will help him, during and after, perhaps Snape.
Harry will find out more about his parents. Aunt Petunia will talk to Harry about his mother.
Luna Lovegood will not hook-up with Harry. The attraction between Harry & Ginny will grow. Harry will have begun to fall in love by the end of book 6.
In book 6, Neville dies, in an act of great heroism.
I like the idea of Dumbledore taking the Dark Arts post in book 6. At around exam time, Dumbledore is killed. Harry is forced to grow up quickly.
Nobody will dare to take the Dark Arts job in Harry’s seventh year. Much to Snape’s annoyance, Harry will fill in as the Dark Arts teacher… while still a student at Hogwarts.
Also in book 7, Hermione will find out that McGonagal suffers from the magical equivalent of alzheimer’s. McGonagal will rely on Hermione to keep her illness hidden.
Harry will have to team up with either Malfoy or Dudley. I’m not really sure which would be more interesting…
Harry will save Severus Snape from Wormtail. He has no choice but to use the death curse on Wormtail. This lands him in Azkaban. Within the prison walls, Malfoy senior seems to have reformed, but he’s actually setting Harry up for the final confrontation with you know who…
Other likely deaths: Hagrid, Draco Malfoy, Percy, one of the two Weasley twins. I like the idea of one of the two going over to Voldemort.
Well not really, but I think her and Neville would make a good pair. They are both quirky and likeable. However, Neville was written as too much of of a doofus in the beginning. He will need a lot more fleshing out to make it a good pair since even though Luna is kooky she is competent and smart.