Blood test . Bonds was asked by a reporter to give up blood for a test when he claimed he was clean. He vehemently refused. It would have been settled then. Now that the season is over he would be clean. I do not know how long traces remain in the blood stream. Weed can be found for 2 weeks. How long for HGH and steroids.?
That would only prove he hasn’t done steroids in the last couple of months, probably, which would not satisfy Schilling’s demand. Athletes cycle on and off steroids in a controlled manner and take drugs to beat tests*, so testing negative doesn’t prove you’re clean anyway. And I believe there is still no reliable test for HGH, and as a result I expect there’s more use of HGH than steroids at this point.
*These drugs are also sometimes banned as “masking agents.”
Water-based injectables, instead of the oil-based injectables, are very hard to detect among the steroids. The oil-based steroids hang around for a while provided a longer more consistent dose. Water based are just too short lived.
HGH (which is not a ‘steroid’) is pretty much non-detectable.
If you were an athlete not subject to testing or rules, you’d opt for oil based injections with some orals thrown in for stack power.
HGH is just flat out the drug of choice. Almost no detection, side effects don’t seem to jump up like steroids.
Yes, he could have, but he had no good reason to. We have no legal right to see the full medical records of a ballplayer, and he had valid reasons for his privacy. Teams are required to reveal what part of a disabled-list player is damaged, but no more. To reveal more gives other teams an advantage, and it could hurt the player’s market value the next time he’s traded.
If Pettite had revealed his use of HGH, he would have been tainted in the eyes of some fans. Every time he walked on the field, he would have seen somebody waving a picture of a syringe. Some players are thick-skinned, and some aren’t.
Does “lie on” mean the same thing as “tell lies about?” It’s a pretty silly phrase.
Um…agreed?
If you’re commenting on semantics, the reason for using that was to compare Rog to a small child (who has not yet developed perfect grammar) who comes home and says something like “mommy they’re lying on me”.
I do find it extremely odd that a recent survey on Fox or MSN shows that like 64% of respondents feel he is innocent. I believe this is the whole “he’s a nice guy- he wouldn’t do that! thing”, which I find comical- It’s of course perfectly natural to have the best ERA of your twenty year career at age 42. :rolleyes:
I’ve heard Roger Clemens accused of a lot of things, but I have never ever heard anyone call him a nice guy. Perhaps they are either blinded by fanhood or don’t find the accusations credible, but I don’t think anyone out there - other than some relatives, maybe - think he’s too nice to cheat.
Pettitte flat out lied about his use of HGH before. He insisted repeatedly that he’d NEVER used it.
After the Mitchell report came out, and he could no longer issue flat denials, he decided to admit that, well, yeah, he did it, but only twice.
Two things are clearly established about Andy Pettitte:
- He has used HGH.
- He’s a damn liar.
The logical inference is that he’s STILL full of crap.
No, do you have proof that they make you an “entirely different” player?
And why make a distinction between using drugs to get healthy vs. using them to perform better.
Well, if HGH makes a .230 hitter a .230 hitter, albeit one who recovers from injury faster, I just take that as a bit less of a crime than a drug that makes a .230 hitter a .330 hitter.
An internet search indicates there is no test for HGH. Even blood test wont work. I find in the case of streroids that most sites are offering masking agents. They claim they can get you through a test. If Bonds does not play again and Roger retires they will never get steroids proof. I told my son I thought Roger was juicing years ago. Bonds is even more obvious. If you require clinical proof the window is rapidly closing.
You have a cite that steroids can make a .230 hitter a .330 hitter? That’s quite a claim.
But again, why is it less of a crime?