Maybe you don’t care, but I do. Sure, they have absolutely no influence over the actual election, but sometimes it can be useful to get the perspective of someone who’s not inside the US political system. If you disagree, fine, but you don’t have to get so damn worked up about it.
Don’t suppose you heard about Madrid, eh?
Can we take it, then, that you won’t be posting on any political and cultural events you are powerless to change?
Just another leftist fabrication:
My paycheck and my culture. I’m actually quite ‘liberal’ on alot of issues, so I probably shouldn’t use ‘left wingnut’, but in general, a Democrat President and Democrat control in Congress, is more likely to harm me on a personal level in $ or attacks on my lifestyle/culture. Ardent supporters of Kerry will often be bunnyhuggers / treehuggers / gungrabbers. My arch enemies.
The question was why would you vote for Bush. Because he is my lesser enemy.
Spaniard’s aren’t US registered voter, what’s your point? They are meaningless to the US political process!
Senggüm: Here’s a link for your cite. Not that:
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[li]The article clearly states that at the time it was written the recession’s start date was officially set as March 2001[/li][li]The article says that they are only considering moving the start date, not that they have actually done so[/li][/ol]
Furthermore, the website of the organization that makes this determination lists the recession as beginning March 2001 and ending November 2001. This is clearly not, as you claimed, a “leftist fabrication.”
Which canidate is offering solutions, not full of crap, not a liar, and not using soundbites? It isn’t Bush or Kerry.
Note that.
furt’s point was that many who decry foreign comments on US politics were quick to comment on Spain’s politics when the opposition party won the national elections earlier this year shortly after massive terrorist bombings in that country.
“… official timekeeper for the nation’s recessions is considering moving the starting date for the most recent economic decline back to November or December of 2000 …” Notice the word official …
Senggüm, you didn’t disprove my point. From my previously linked article, emphasis mine:
My two listed points are clearly supported by the linked article, which contains the exact text, letter for letter, of your cite. Furthermore, the organization I linked to is the one mentioned in your own cite as the group which sets the recession dates.
The National Bureau of Economic Research, which is the organization behind the report I linked to in my post, is the “official timekeeper” referred to in your cite.
You’ll have to do a little better than this undated quote you give us. While I was able to find some articles from January of this year in which they talked about the NBER considering the date change (here and here), a more recent article (March 5) here says:
At any rate, November or December 2000 are not “at least 6 months prior to the 2000 election”. Mind you, I am not saying that Bush is to blame for the recession. However, he is to blame for mortgaging our future to the tune of a few trillion dollars in order to implement about the most expensive, least effective “stimulus program” in history…which isn’t surprising since it wasn’t originally proposed as a stimulus program but rather as a “give the taxpayers back some of the surplus program” back in the days of a Democratic President when the concern was of excessive government surpluses. It only became a stimulus program when the economy turned sour.
“the most recent economic decline back to November or December of 2000” … so at a minimum it was December 2000? GW wasn’t there was he?
He was probably somewhere in Alabama.
No, it was not. Senggüm, you are altering the quote from your own cite. Here is the quote you offer:
Prior to the post of yours I quote above, nobody in this thread has truncated that portion of your cite. Here is the actual, full sentance, taken from your own cite, emphasis mine, bold section is the selective quote used in your most recent post:
Your selective quoting conveniently omits the key word: considering. Your own cite says that they were merely considering moving the date. Furthermore, I provided you a link to the organization referred to in your cite, which directly contradicts your statement that the start date of March 2001 is a “fabrication”. jshore provided another cite which states that there is “nothing imminent”; that is, the recession start date won’t be changing soon.
I suggest you take a close look at my post and cites. You are misreading my arguments, and you are misreading my cites; furthermore, you are being intellectually dishonest by selectively quoting your own cite to misrepresent its claims. That is not the way to conduct a debate.
Great response. So you can fly a delta fighter jet too! Or maybe drive a little boat on a river at best?
Your cites are not official to the date, why should I listen?
Senggüm, may I ask what an “official” cite would be?
Originally posted by Aldebaran
You’ve said that before:“gum, go play with your dolls” [ga met je poppen spelen] You know, I can’t. There’s a leak in them. 
[You speak mighty fine Belgian, btw.]
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Maybe you are the one who hasn’t a clue “what you talk about”
While, publicly, the VB [Vlaams Blok / Flemish Block] has been striving to pass itself off as a respectable
party, it remains quietly faithful to its ideological heritage. Since 1989 the VB
has been the main European ally of the French FN [Front National] , and in 1998 their political
ties were intensified. Most of the bloc’s leaders (Philip Claeys, Filip De Man,
Johan Demol, Filip Dewinter, Karel Dillen, Roeland Raes, Franck Van Hecke,
and others) were involved in the lectures given by the Brussels’ mini-group
known as Bruxelles-Identité-Sécurité (BIS), or worked on its propaganda
magazine together with members of the French FN national leadership
before that party split in December 1998.
The BIS was set up in 1994 by the former heads of the Parti des forces
nouvelles (PFN), a French-speaking neo-Nazi and revisionist mini-group,
which was active in the 1970s and 1980s. It was the PFN which handled the
French Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson’s security and lecture arrangements
Originally posted by Zagadka
Yes. But heaven forbid if we expressed our concerns about those countries politics in the way Aldebaran concerns his, about America.
Like the Spanish people [rightfully so] didn’t like the way they were spoken of, I can imagine the American people being sick of Aldebaran’s contemptuous posts about your voting behaviour.
As the 747 crashes through your office window…
Why? Because Saddam tried to take over Kuwait and destabilize the region. 9/11 was the direct result of OBL’s dislike of US troops on Saudi soil. The UN’s solution was for the US to continue occupying the region indefinitely. IMO, that is not a solution. The UN could have stepped in but it didn’t. Saddam and his regime had to be removed from power. We could have killed him and left but that would have left a power vacuum.
Alderbaran has continued to condemn President Bush for removing Saddam but has never offered a solution to Iraq or the network of Islamic terrorists that plaque this planet. Maybe we should have left Saddam to his own designs and let the UN worry about it.