Hmm. Now I don’t want to imply that antigay sentiment isn’t real or a pernicious curse on society. Because it is. But the above message isn’t too different from that sent to (or received by) your typical shy, beta-male hetero. And nobody says that’s unjust or wrong, I guess because a) he’s not a member of a persecuted minority group and b) no one is shrilly thumping Bibles at him or attmepting to pass legislation.
I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if the show was edited to make the woman appear as harsh and critical as possible.
It’s happened before. It will happen again. It’s called shilling for ratings.
I’m not saying she’s not like that IRL. But I would be interested in seeing any post-air interviews she’s done, to see if she really feels that way or if she was instructed to play it up for the camera.
And so what if she was?
If you’re willing to play the bigot for the sake of a network’s ratings, or to make yourself more appealing to a show’s producers, then you deserve every bit of opprobrium you receive.
And even if she was edited to appear as “harsh and critical as possible,” i again ask, “So what?” Surely anyone with more than three functioning neurons knows that these “reality” shows are about nothing but extremism in pursuit of ratings. If you’re willing to whore yourself out to the producers of these shows, don’t be surprised if you come out looking like an idiot.
He’s 18. Cut him some slack. Hell, he’s more enlightened about homosexuality than I was at his age, and I’m gay.
The woman on the show, however, gets no slack at all. I don’t care how selectively edited the show is, there’s no context in which what she said is not staggeringly bigoted.
IIRC, he’s only sixteen.
Eh, well while I don’t in any way agree with them, I can kind of see where they are coming from. I’m not a perfect person and there have been times I’ve really felt like killing someone but I didn’t. So while I had the urge to commit a sin I didn’t. I think it’s some sort of comprimise between “God has damned you just 'cause!” and “Let’s all party like Romans!”, chastizing the act and not the person. While I’d like everyone to accept everyone, I’ll take judgementality over mobs with torches and pitchforks.
I’m all for gay guys, they doubly cut down on my competition. 
Lesbians…well they can be fun to watch at times. 
She was frightened that the lesbian mom wanted her “sweet, sweet can.”
I googled a bunch of stuff earlier today. Didn’t save the links though, but one site had a whole list of stuff related to this episode as well as prior eps.
One website says Mrs. Gillespie (so far) was refusing interviews (to them, anyway).
Another website described an event that didn’t make it to the show – the Gillespies took Kristine to a church service where she had to sit and listen to the congregation talking about banning gay marriage. Maybe ABC decided that was too political to include.
Another site had an interview with Nicki, who said that Kristine was sorry she did the show.
And all I’m saying is don’t judge her based on what you see on TV. Yes, she might have played up her bigotry to get on television, and she may be an idiot for doing so. But while being a homophobe means that one is an idiot, being an idiot doesn’t necessarily mean one is a homophobe.
I see your point, but I still don’t agree with it. The person (the homosexual) and the act (gay sex) go hand in hand. If you condemn one, you condemn the other, IMO.
The whole basis of being a homosexual is sex with a person of the same sex. Not interior decorating and making over straight guys, although that’s how the media apparently wants us to see them as–sexless caricatures.
I had to sympathize with Kristine (lesbian Kris), she had to do all the crappy chores that Nicki didn’t want to do (before they swapped), and I thought she did a pretty good job of loosening things up in the Gillispie house without ramming any personal agendas down anyones throat, just accepting her for who she is. Dad Gillispie gets honerable mention for tolerating the gay bar dance clinic and for allowing some looseness around the house and not getting into arguments with Kris.
At the other house though, the other Chris (or Conservative Kris) and Nicki just grated my nerves…both of them. Way too combative, and both couldn’t find any middle ground to build on. At least Nicki began to realize that she dumped a little too much on her partner and C-Chris jumped on her for that.
An extra WTF for Conservative Chris ripping on Lesbian Kris at the end. Ignorance like that is very un-Christianlike. I hope C-Chris got a little education from her kids when she got back home. Back to tolerance school you go. :wally
That’s why, I’m pissed that I never got the chance to kick Carrol O’Conner’s ass for that crap he pulled on All in the Family.
Not sure if your post was meant to be ironic, but there’s a notable difference between playing a character in an openly fictional show, and playing yourself in a show that purports to document real-life people’s reactions to real-life situations.
Huh? Did you actually see any of the footage in question? Can you truly watch that hour of television and suggest that the woman isn’t a homophobe?
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Yes, I was stretching that on purpose. My point is that I think this too is a fictional show. In fact, more fiction than fact. I would suggest that the subjects are “guided” into the way they act.
As and example, I suspect they could take somebody who is uncomfortable when they see a mouse and continually tell that person, “On TV you need to exaggerate your feelings”. “Don’t be wimpy expressing yourself”. By the time they are done with the subject he’s screaming about a horendous dirty fucking filthy rat that’s going to suck the life out of his children!!!
It’s just Gerry Springer with a better setup.
With all due respect, I don’t think that’s true. I’m gay and have never had sex, and for that matter, I don’t really plan on having sex. I don’t think that makes me any less gay.
I have no doubt they chose some ignorant bigot. Why not?
My point is that it is a waste of time to get angry over this person, as the whole point of such shows is to generate outrage (and thus ratings).
If you want to be angry, be angry at the concept of peddling outrageous bigotry for ratings - but then, you’ll have to be angry at yourself, for watching the show, thus ensuring better ratings for this sort of stuff. 
As much as “reality TV” is not reality, the camera can not make you say anything. They can edit what you say as much as possible, but those words still came out of your mouth.
But that’s too much of a blanket statement. Yes they have families that will clash; but they’re not usually so outrageous. The interesting aspect of the show is to see if the participants grow from the experience. It was nice to see the daughter begin to pursue art because of the influence of the temporary mom. It was good that Nicki learned to not be so bossy with Kris. Many partcipants in the show learn from the experience. Tighty Righty Mom, apparently not.
Everyone who is jumping on START:
I think you guys are completely over complicating what he said. Unfortunately in our society, you are either “ok” with homosexuality or you aren’t. There’s a million reasons one way or another, but ultimately it has become a political issue. START just simplified the issue. In fact, I believe he was just trying to say that he respects the view of those who are “not ok” with gay marriage. Seems open minded to me. I know that this shouldn’t be the case (the idea that some has to be “ok” with it or not), but that is how it has become. **
In regards to the show:
I was embarassed for her. Nicki (?) brought up during one of the many arguments how blacks were pursecuted the same way gays are today…but rich, Christian lady went off about how Nicki couldn’t understand because she wasn’t black. :smack:
Rich, Christian husband (i’m so bad with names!) seemed embarassed by his wife’s actions during the final meeting. He proved how he has no balls though, by not even saying a word.
I wish this show was like the one on Fox where the “new mommys” get to allocate $50k for their host family. Now THAT would have been interesting.
** For the record, my own mother is a lesbian (well, you know…she came into her…lesbianess–yes, that’s a word-- after I was born ). I am from a very conservative area and have talked to many people about homosexuality (I’m in college, it happens). It really has just come down to whether or not people are “ok” with it.
Man, my spelling is fantabulous.