Those are interesting questions. Perhaps you should go find the answers before insinuating that somehow, somewhere, somebody did some unknown thing wrong in some unknown way.
See? This is what happens when you charge ahead without acquiring appropriate information first. It all goes horribly wrong.
Then perhaps they should be more forthcoming. We speculate when things are intentionally hidden from us for political advantage.
The formulation “I have questions, therefore you are hiding something” is far more characteristic of the CT crowd than of legitimate political inquiry.
I have questions, you refuse to answer them, you’ve been caught lying, and things went wrong, is not a conspiracy theory.
All they had to do was handle Benghazi the way they handled Boston. There actually are some hard questions to ask about Boston, like why the FBI interviewed one of the brothers and decided there was nothing going on, but the administration has seen no need to hide anything, so there’s no problem with Congress over the issue. With Benghazi, by contrast, they went into spin mode right from the start and haven’t stopped spinning.
Gish gallop. You fail and fail and fail, and jump from bullshit point to bullshit point. Never for a moment having the integrity, honesty or courage to face the staggeringly ignorant and incorrect points you’ve been blubbering since you entered this thread.
You being to afraid to honestly debate is one thing. But strutting around like you’re winning, that’s just the cat’s meow.
“Indeed, we should ask his opinions on immigration, abortion and gay marriage, just to keep the copy/paste laughs coming.”
Oh shit - someone got me right in the crotch about my other-than conservative points of view.
I am pro-choice, Period.
I believe gays should be able to be have same status as anybody else.
BTW, I did serve in the Air Force, there were indeed gay members who did great things for us, were taken prisoner, etc., but they couldnt announce they were gay in those days.
Immigration - I am pretty moderate about, I am in Texas - illegal immigrants are a fact - well, my views on these areas - I guess they mean I cannot be a “true Conservative” either
Oh, to “fail utterly” to belong fully to either camp… devastating
Will I talk to people as real people? Jury still out on that.
Yall think I should start a new thread on “IRS-Gate” or just incorporate that here.
Oh - yeah - Jay Carney, not Art Carney - was who I was tawkin about
Not implausible, but, cite, please.
See post #296.
They haven’t been caught lying- they’ve been “caught” putting out information that turned out to be false (though they weren’t sure at the time).
Your military “analysis” is an utter failure. You don’t understand how the chain of command works at all. You don’t understand how decisions are made in the military at all. There is no issue, no scandal, no coverup, no nothing, with regards to the military response to Benghazi.
All there is is that some info was put out that turned out to be false- and that memoranda were revised. Sometimes the intel people get it wrong- and they did at first for Benghazi. Issa, Graham, and company are obviously not interested in the truth- because the truth is that there was a tragic murderous attack (which happens on Earth sometimes) and there was some confusion in the PR afterwards, and that’s it. They’re only interested in scoring political points. They’re failing at it, by the way.
Politicians are always in “spin mode”- even when they handle things perfectly and gracefully. The spin is working when you don’t notice it. But there’s far, far more spinning on the other side then on the administration’s side going on here.
That depends. What is this “IRS-Gate”?
I started one anyway
Uhh… for those who hadnt heard – the IRS officially apologized to some Tea Party Groups for TARGETING them for IRS scrutiny
just because they had the words “Tea Party” or “Patriot” in their descriptions/requests for Tax Exempt status
i thot this would be general knowledge by now
On this thread, the discussion of military operational matters …
I can neither affirm nor deny that anyone knows what the fuck they are tawkin about concerning this
If the IRS scandal isn’t common knowledge here, then I question where these people are getting their news. It would explain a lot though.
You ask a lot of questions, I’ve noticed. And yet you always seem to have already jumped to a conclusion before you’ve even asked the question.
I’ve heard of the IRS’s review of the various Tea Party groups’ tax status. But who knew what Habakkuk3 might have meant by the term “IRS-Gate” without further context, especially given the factually-loose OP? This is why one asks first, THEN comes to conclusions based on the answers.
They lied about where the changes to the talking points came from. They said they came from the intelligence community, but they were actually changed by the State Department.
There might not be on the response, but it’s still something Congress is going to want to know. And they have the power to compel answers.
The info turned out to be accurate. Until it was revised by the State Department. Then it was false.
As for whether it’s succeeding or not:
Normally Presidents get high marks for handling crises unless they obviously screwed up or lied. An attack usually creates a “rally around the President” effect. Benghazi is producing the opposite.
You are not from Texas, right? Lie if you have to, just tell me you’re not from Texas.
Well, when I invited your commentary on these issues, I figured you were probably going to just regurgitate right-wing stop-though talking points, as you have for Bhengazi.
Colour me slightly surprised - your probable trolling is limited to just one topic. I can almost applaud your discipline.
and I thought about replying IN WORDS to these bitch-strikes concerning
how horrible I am to “represent” older people, conservatives, “Air Force veterans”, citizens of Texas –
but ya know what?
I choose not to respond in words - I would rather respond with a manual, digital GESTURE aimed in the Internet General direction of this crap
so visualize my finger
In any case the worst case scenario is that they spun facts into a positive political message on a morning talk show in the middle of the campaign. The consequence of that should be a “pants on fire” rating from politifact and a few news articles and editorials setting the record straight. You don’t need a full scale investigation every time a politician shades the truth, you’d never get anything done. Its not like any major policy decisions hinged on whether it was a demonstration or pre-planned attack.
I suspect that the reason the Republicans are hitting this so hard is that in recent years the Republicans were starting to lose their edge in polls about which party does better on national security issues, and they think that this “scandal” will act as a band aid to stop the bleeding.
Oh Bryan
now my probable trolling is limited to TWO topics - cuz I have included the IRS shit as well
but yeah, on most social topics, I am liberal
I cannot swallow this demonizing-of-gays and “equating of abortion with murder”
I jest caint swaller this current administration either