Human beings exist because of sexual reproduction. The reason that sexual intercourse exists is because of sexual reproduction. Sexual reproduction occurs because of the workings of chemicals as described in biology.
Sexual desire is what motivates human beings and animals to have sex. This happens because in order to reproduce there must be a motivation. The motivation(desire) is the result of chemicals in the body as described by the biological sciences.
Homosexuals don’t use sexual intercourse to reproduce, but they still have sex because they are motivated by the same sex-molecules in their bodies.
Gays have sex with members of their own gender. This is either because of an error in their genetics or an error in their environment. It is an error in an evolutionary sense. Evolution is how we came to be.
I suppose i was really objecting to your use of hemphilia as an analogy, since you said that is only seen in males, whereas homosexuality is seen in both sexes.
Wouldn’t that make it less likely to be a soley genetic cause, since pure homosexuality in either sex would mean that the gene would not be passed on?
But then many not completely homosexual people reproduce i suppose.
Apparently you did not understand the analogy, so I’ll explain it again.
Some traits are carried on the sex chromosomes, X and Y. Females have an XX pair of sex chromosomes. Males have an XY pair of sex chromosomes. Most traits carried are present on only the X-chromosome. The Y-chromosome is smaller, and so, very few genes are located on this chromosome.
Sex-linked traits would be considered traits like sickle cell anemia and color blindness. They are said to be linked because more males (XY) develop these traits than females (XX). This is because the females have a second X gene to counteract the recessive trait. Thus, the trait is more likely to be visible in the male.
If male homosexuality has a genetic factor, it may be sex-linked. The gene for male homosexuality could be a recessive trait on the X chromosome, so you don’t have to be male to carry the gene for male homosexuality. But you do have to be male to express, to manifest the gene. Do you understand now?
I spoke of the cause of male homosexuality, not all homosexuality. Female homosexuality may be also caused by a genetic factor, and that genetic factor may also be sex-linked. I haven’t seen studies on genetic factors in female homosexuality, so I don’t now. But don’t assume that the causes of male and female homosexuality have to be linked in some way.
To answer the OP, yes - gay men and lesbians are known to come to terms with their sexuality at a wide variety of ages. I’ve heard of some knowing at 13 they were gay, some not fully getting it until their late 20’s. I remember having a crush on Freddie White in the 6th grade. Sexuality is not black and white, it’s fluid.
And as to others, I’ll simply point you to my old sig line:
I am happy to have my post follow the “above” average Esprix.
Imagine this conversation:
Christian: God loves you and so do I,and wants to save you!
Gay: Really? Does he? Tell me more.
Christian: Oh, you are gay? Well, I think you are disgusting and wish you and all other gays should leave America!
Gay: Huh! I thought you said God loved me! And you did too!?
Chrsitian: Well, we love the sinner but hate the sin.
Gay: I’m not 2 people, you either love me or not!
Chrsitian: You are sinning and God won’t love you if you stay gay.
Gay: Oh,okay…So God loves me conditionally?
Chrsitian:Exactly!
Now read this tract, and get back to me when you see the light.
Yeah, i think i understand more of what you mean when you say “sex linked” now, thanks
I know that you were talking about make homosexuality, but is there anything to make us think that female and male homosexuality are different to each other in some way?
If there is, thats fine and what you say is sound, but if there isn’t, the idea of a recessive trait on the X cromosome might not work…
I don’t know, im no biologist unfortunatly, as you seem to know a bit and im sure we could have a good talk about it.
Count me with those who don’t think many teenaged boys of any orientation spend a lot of time thinking about marriage. Teenaged girls, on the other hand…
Pet Peeve: Why are lesbians so frequently ignored when the subject of homosexuality comes up? Why couldn’t this thread be about girls dreaming of a big ol’ lesbian wedding? Ah well.
Anyway, looking at the broader issue, I don’t know if homosexuality will ever be considered completely “normal”, just because it will probably always be relatively rare. I mean, one sometimes hears people say things like “Oh, you’re left-handed! I never realized!” My leftie sister tells me that on multiple occasions people have actually felt the need to inform her that Hitler was left-handed! So even if social attitudes change to the point where homosexuality is no bigger a deal than left-handedness, I think we can still expect some folks to think it’s a little odd or worthy of stupid remarks.
Reproducing is not the be-all and end-all. How do we know that homosexuality isn’t linked to something like altruism? I don’t have children but I spend more time working for children’s welfare than a lot of parents do! It’s simplistic and reductionistic to boil it all down to reproduction as the only genetic option for benefitting the species.
Doesn’t stop people from saying he was left-handed, though. So I wouldn’t expect little things like facts or common courtesy to keep people from making idiot remarks about homosexuality in the future. But I think we can at least hope for a future in which these remarks will genuinely be the product of stupidity or thoughtlessness and not hatred, prejudice, or fear.
This is just a brief, off the top of my head post before I’ve had any caffeine but all the surveys I’ve read, while veering wildly back and forth on actual percentages, place the number of lesbians at a lower percentage just about every time. This could mean that it is a sex-based issue and only women with two x-chromosomes that both have the gene(s) involved manifest, whereas only one is needed for men.
IANAS either, but wouldn’t the above hypothesis mean that all lesbians would be the offspring of gay fathers and “gay gene” carrier mothers? That doesn’t seem to be the case, so unless I’ve mangled my genetics (which is entirely possible) I think there’s got to be another explanation.
Personally, I don’t see any real reason to assume that the same gene leads to homosexuality in both men and women. It seems more likely to me that there’s some gene, combination of genes, or mixture of genetic and hormonal factors that tells the brain/body “men are hot!” and another one that says “women are hot!” But again, IANAS, so that’s just me making stuff up.
