Will Joe Biden pardon Hunter? (Answer: Yes. Pardoned on December 1, 2024)

We decided to vote that “the ‘little’ man” should be persecuted and crushed; it’s “everyone for themselves” now. Why should he sacrifice his family in an America that has chosen hatred and malice?

Now if you could just point to an “extreme legal action” that Biden has committed…

The opposition is going to do exactly what they are doing, and any “reasoning” is done after the fact. There is no way the Democrats can act that will cause the Trumpians to act any differently.

I have bent over backwards to say I have zero love of Trump
But that mouse is fairly destructive, regardless of the Elephant.

We voted for fascism, so that they won’t matter. Americans don’t want democracy, they want a tyrant. And the “opposition” don’t need any reason than “we want to” to take “extreme legal actions”, or to just ignore the law entirely. The law is as dead as democracy.

If trying to put a stop to relentless persecution is “fairly destructive” to you, compared to the absolute shit show on the other side, then there is nothing other than complete capitulation on behalf of Biden that could possibly make you happy.

Now if only that didn’t appear, in this thread at least, to be totally based on Joe Biden exercising one of the few things reserved to the President in the CotUS.

You’re exactly right.
But my far left wing daughters see no moral difference, between the actions of the parties.
One said they both are burning piles of shit.

I would hope for at least one party, not but obvious lie to us

Then you should teach them better. If they, and you, see no moral difference between the two sides then there is a major problem going on that I can’t possibly resolve.

You could have stopped at “left wing”.

Well, that doesn’t matter since they are on the way to becoming unpeople for their gender and pariahs for their politics. They’re going to have (and become) an object lesson on the fact that there are differences, unfortunately they won’t ever have a chance to benefit from it.

Hypocrisy is hard to overlook, I think particularly then you are young.
I never said both sides were equally guillty, far from it.
But we all know BS when we see it.
So let call it now, and move on

Yes, but, I’m almost certain, the people of Gaza will erect a very nice statue of them to honor all they did for them.

Seriously, that is your takeaway?
Are they left wing, in this county without doubt. (But so am i)
Am I more or less so, depends on issue.
It was a simple way of putting a somewhat of a location on the political spectrum, nothing more.

And once again believing that politicians, should just tell us the truth.
Strange on the Staight Dope I am meeting so much hostility.

Yes, if one sees no moral differences between the actions of the parties then one is (checks forum) words I can’t say in this forum.

I unfortunately think there is some truth to your statement.
But I believe the correct answer is to double down, on the rule of law.
Don’t effectively tell us, it doesn’t apply to those with power or wealth.
That was Trump’s answer, it should not be ours

I dunno. Given the behaviour of Trump and his MAGAt followers and the promise of revenge he has vowed, why on earth WOULDN’T Biden pardon his own son? For his and Hunter’s own protection? He won’t have the power to pardon once he leaves office. He really has nothing to lose, and if Trump isn’t going to be accountable for his own crimes, why should anyone else? This is the precedent he has said.

Dead concept, we’ve chosen fascism instead. It’s everyone for themselves now.

Again, an again, and again I have said, i do think there is absolutely major differences between the parties
What I do state, Biden should not have lied to us.
That is just a simple request to built good will with the electorate.

Changing your mind when the circumstances change isn’t “lying”, it’s acknowledging reality. And honesty takes a poor second to the preservation of self and family, anyway. In the new era honesty is going to be self destructive and immoral.