He has nothing to lose, is not a precedent I hope to perpetuate
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I am fine with changing your mind, in fact I find it rational response to many things.
But this is our legal system.
For years I have heard it scorned by one side of the aisle.
Have we now agreed with their assessment?
Our legal system that includes the Presidential power of pardon.
No? They are going to destroy the rule of law - and are well on the way to it before even taking office. It’s not going to be “our legal system”, it will be theirs and only theirs. And will have no function but as a boot to smash the rest of us down.
One of our local entrepreneurs, got on the wrong side of laws about minority ownership for government contracts.
And was doing time in a federal prison, until Trump pardoned him.
Local gossip said the cost was $1 million.
Technically that was the law working, but I am guessing that was not the bit taught in high school civics
When that happens I will absolutely agree.
What we have before us, is the current travesty.
What “travesty”? Pardoning someone to help them escape political persecution is practically the platonic ideal of what the pardon power is supposed to be used for.
I will be honest I have never really been sure what the purpose of the pardon was supposed to protect against.
But if we presuppose in this case it is against a rouge judiciary.
Haven’t we just agreed to Trump’s much larger point
The situation changed greatly when Trump was elected and people who said they would relentlessly go after the Bidens were given the power to do so.
We just disagree on what that travesty actually is.
The blatant intention of Trump and company to use the courts as a weapon to punish their enemies, including but not limited to Hunter Biden.
Don’t believe I heard Biden say until situations change, In his many statements on the subject.
Just don’t piss in my ear, and tell it is raining
We might
And I agree it is not the greatest before us
Do you think he’s insane? Because otherwise it should be taken as a given. Would you expect him to keep a promise to give a candy bar to a child if he found out it was full of cyanide?
If a president tells me some ‘untruths’ about a developing world events, until they could take reasonable action; they may get a pass. (and sometimes not, after the fact)
None of which seemed to apply in this instance.
Out our curiosity, what is the candy bar and who is the child in this analogy?
I just have to ask you directly: After Trump was unexpectedly elected and those that said they were going to pursue the Bidens no matter what were put in positions of authority, what exactly did you expect Joe Biden to do?
I get it, I would not want to be in that position.
But I also didn’t say I would never pardon my son.
I am having a good bit of issue with the seeming accepted logic that that there is no logical leap.
And the answer to the question is…?
When the Nazis knock on the door and ask if you know where any Jews are, do you tell them there are some hiding in the attic because it’s “honest”? That’s where the kind of absolutism you are pushing goes.
You don’t say what you don’t mean - that is fairly obvious.
He went on record that he would never do this, no doubt knowing this was a possibility - then he did.
What do you call it?