Who gives a flying fuck how much she has to say? Not every songwriter in the world needs to be Bob Dylan and write songs full of groundbreaking lyrical poetry and social justice stories.
She is, as you point out, a “pop singer”. She sings, mostly, dance-pop. Of course some of her songs aren’t going to look great written out on paper - there is much more to being an effective artist than just lyrics, especially within Gaga’s genre.
There are entertainers whose work I just really, really love on a personal level, often for reasons that don’t seem all that important when I try to describe them to other people, but they are important to me. I don’t generally recommend them to other people, and I don’t expect anyone else to like them, though I will usually defend them if someone bashes them- especially if I get the feeling that that person couldn’t possibly know their work as well as I do. With that in mind, I will try my best not to talk shit about Lady Gaga anymore.
Anyone concerned with her relevance, which is what this thread is nominally about. She is undeniably popular and clearly entertaining to a great many people. She may well be able to play and sing, but frankly that’s a minimum qualification for someone in her job, not something to boast about.
I’m asking what she has to say, what it is that makes her relevant to anything, now or in the future.
No, not everyone has to be Dylan, not everyone has to be relevant. But if the question is “will she be relevant in a few years”, asking if she’s even relevant now shouldn’t be a problem. In the absence of any evidence to the contrary in this rather long thread, I’m sticking with “no” as the answer.
She’s relevant to pop music and pop culture, and will continue to be relevant to pop music as long as she continues to make pop songs that sell. All signs point to yes, she will continue to make pop songs that will sell, going by her current impact and popularity. Of course none of us can see into the future and her next record might be a giant flop.
What more is there to it?
Here’s a question.
Many people on this thread have compared Lady Gaga to Madonna.
Who would you compare Octomom to? That is, who was the previous fertility record holder. Without googling, I have absolutely no idea whatsoever, and - this is just a guess - I doubt anyone else does either.
That may speak to the future relevancy / name recognition of LG and OM. Or it may not, I dunno.
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Lady Gaga is about as relevant as Kirk Van Houten’s difficult second album, but even this pop fluff is more relevant than “The Octomom”. I know the name, because it is in the title of a pit thread. But I guarantee there are about four people in this country who think they know who she is, and three of them are watching Spiderman 2.
I’d guess maybe that Iowa woman who was on the cover of Time and Newsweek back in the 90s, Bobbi McCaughey. I mostly remember it for the journalism ethics argument over one touch-up artist going too crazy and filling in one of her teeth on the cover (which is generally a no-no for news publications.) But they still pop up in publications from time to time. People had a feature on them after they turned twelve in late 2009.
I quoted and interpreted some of her lyrics, you’re not reading very carefully.
Nitpick: She’s the first to have all 8 survive more than a week. There have been other documented cases of 8 births and even 9 births.
At any rate, I do believe Lady Gaga has far more staying power than Octomom, and I don’t think her popularity is going anywhere. She makes good, catchy, danceable pop music. My only complaint about her music is that it sounds dated to me. Most Lady Gaga songs I can almost swear I heard back in the early 2000s. There’s just something about the arrangement and sounds being used–it reminds me of some Eurodance circa that era.
Anyhow, she’s clearly talented as musician, dancer, and provocateur. Frankly, I’m shocked that anyone could argue Octomom is more well-known than Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga is known the world over. Octomom’s popularity is far more localized.
Other than the fact that she chose the stupidest stage name ever used by a non-rapper, I love Gaga and think she’ll be hugely popular for at least another ten years. As another poster wrote so beautifully, GaGa boosts her fans’ self esteem in a way that’s genuinely touching and there’s real sincerity behind everything she does.
Oh, and I’m a 37 year old husband and father, so it’s not just club hopping teens that love her.
Just you wait and see. When the viable octuplets take hold with realism and personality. When you see Nadya and the octuplets as real feeling talented people only a generation behind… soon to come, as I can’t claim. You will realize the difference and perform your own caculus. You will grow up with a first in human evolution, The first full set of octuplets.
You know, as much as I’ve got one for Gaga, you sure do have a boner for Octomom. Takes all kinds, I suppose.
Hey, I don’t have a boner for her, so to speak, she has a strong fertility factor as a male, I am maybe fucked up to that degree… the natural physiology of sex and primal attractiveness, natal attraction… a woman that fertile, I just want to stick my dick into like the fountain of youth… I think she’s pretty fucked up, more genuinely than me, however… that’s a whole lotta crazy mama. But I am willing to be convinced that it was all worth it… the greatest feat of mothering ever.
Frankly, to many males, with her aggressive, ugly sex, GaGa is the anti-attractant.
America is captivated by feats of mothering, and Octomom was the greatest ever. You are on to something.
At first I thought Britney Spears was the best of both worlds- amazing parenting AND ability to dance around in a gstring. Then came Nadya and she just shut. it. down.
My apologies, you did. I meant to reply to that post at the time, to thank you for a substansive analysis of her music. In addition to briefly quoting her lyrics, you also say that lyrics in pop music are irrelevant, and I think this is the attitude I don’t understand. The words being sung are the primary means a singer has of communication. Assuming a singer is trying to communicate with their audience, how can what they are saying not matter?
They do matter, but they’re not the only thing that matters. If Lady Gaga is singing a silly song about not wanting to answer her phone while she’s dancing, the lyrics might be light and not have much substance, but there is also the beats, the melody, the chorus, the production, the delivery and the vocals that can make it a great song.
In a genre like folk, where there’s often just a guitar and a vocal, lyrics are very, very important because it’s the focal point of the song. In the genre of dance-pop, the lyrics can be crap, but that doesn’t mean the whole song is necessarily crap, because there are other ways the song can become awesome.
Of course it’s preferable that the lyrics be well written, but if they’re not I don’t see that as a reason to dismiss the song completely.
Well, look at opera. Frequently an audience will have no idea what’s being sung, but they still find the music incredibly moving due to factors entirely outside the scope of lyrics.
Well. You took Multi’s point and made it quite clear with that perfect example, didn’t you?