Holy shit, will I ever take that bet. $100 vs. $25, $1000 vs. $250, whatever you like, MPB. And just to be sporting I’ll set the bar for “far more well-known” at only twice as well-known.
Octomom was a subject on the national news (ABC, CBS, NBC) for weeks—I am afraid that you are not being rational about this subject, apparently because you enjoy Lady Gaga’s music.
That’s all fine and well, but she has never recieved ANYWHERE near the news coverage or publicity that was foolishly lavished on Octomom, even though in my opinion Octomom should have never recieved ANY attention at all, as it seems clear that was her chief motovation to have her 8 kids.
Good point—I guess we better just say MORE well known, to keep it easy.
No. I don’t think Octomom is as well known as Gaga.
I posted just what I meant…I think the fact that you pretended that you never heard of Octomom is utter bullshit.
Maybe you were just kidding with that, though.
… and? I can’t remember the last time I’ve heard about her.
Meanwhile, I heard Gaga on the radio when I just drove 20 miles total and saw something about her tour. That’s just today and not even trying to find stuff about her.
I mean, clearly octomom is more relevant. What has Gaga done to influence pop music? NOTHING. Meanwhile, Octomom has inspired millions of American women to have octuplets of their own! Oh, wait…
Lady Gaga has been a subject on the national news (ABC, CBS, NBC) for the last two years and shows no signs of slowing any time soon-- I’m afraid that you are not being rational about the subject, apparently because you have a fetish for women with baby filled vaginas.
Wait! I figured it out. You’re in Salt Lake City, so of course they are giving more air time to a woman who popped out 123 children than the pop star who dances around in her underwear and dinosaur bones with a bunch of gays around her.
She had to carry all of those babies in her VAGINA?!?
Well, they never made it that far before getting cut out, but I’m just trying to guess what he was into.
I honestly have never heard of Octomom.
Among young people in China (and in other East Asian countries, I’m told) the hip thing is to say “Oh my Lada Gaga!” as one would use “Oh my God!”
Lady Gaga is HUGE internationally.
She has an amazing voice and real talent… pre fame stuff for those who doubt it.
You may have been right as little as a year ago, but I think if anyone actually succeeds in quantifying this, you’re going to lose. Lady Gaga is a media sensation right now, while Octomom has already started her descent into obscurity. People have short memories, and the types of people who pay attention to these two bints doubly so.
I was counting the four solo hits, and then US top tens with Flo Rida and 3OH!3.
I agree she doesn’t have the musical range of Gaga, and think she has even been marketed as an anti-Gaga - compare their images, Gaga is the highly stylised, arty-type, while Ke$ha is a filthy hot mess.
This will out me even further as a “musical simpleton” (or rather just a big gay) but Ke$ha’s Animal and Lady Gaga’s The Fame Monster are, in my opinion, the two best pop albums since Britney Spears’ Blackout - and I am very, very eager to hear the follow-up records and see if Gaga and Ke$ha can continue making good records or if they’ll fall - because each of them needs to switch up their image before people get bored.
Somebody earlier in this thread said Britney Spears was kinda irrelevant - while I get the sentiment behind that, her last single ‘3’, released at the end of 2009, debuted at number one in America - the only non-American Idol single to do so in eleven years. I don’t think someone can be irrelevant when their last single did that.
the thing about GaGa is that her “brand” has a reputation for change. So, unlike artists who get locked into a specific identity, hers is more fluid - heck, lots of folks wouldn’t recognize her out of her look.
I see her using up this version and morphing into different images - again, kinda like Madonna has done. A visit back to the singer/songwriter GaGa was back in her Stephanie Germanotta days - filtered through GaGa - would be no surprise…
I’ll tell you why Octomom will forever be remembered, and always be more relevant and popular than GaGa, because she is the first woman in the world to ever have had 8 babies at a go. She’s the Neil Armstrong of wombing. She’s the first and only original and possibly the last.
All that I have seen from Gaga is some sensationalism and lackluster pop that is played out, and has been done better than her by many artists previous, and many yet to come. Her music is just so forgettable and generic… and when you peel away the sensationalism and hype, that’s all that will ever last of a musician. She simply does not have any music of talent and caliber.
YMMV, but I disagree on both fronts - and I work in the infertility care medical sector and can tell you that the world has, except for the occasional trivia update, moved past Octomom.
As for GaGa - dude, no one is asking her to be in the Pantheon with Beethoven and the Beatles. Just whether she’s a flash in the pan or will have a reasonably-long career. Given what I have seen so far, I can see her having a reasonably long career - at least, her odds are better than most pop stars on the charts…
But that’s exactly my point.
Sure, she’s not really popular now, the media machine has moved on, and the same thing will happen to Gaga… But I guarantee that by the time that one or more/several of the Octokids are celebrating their 91st birthday to great acclaim in 2100 that nobody will be listening to Ladfy Gaga, But they will be noting Nadya Suleman’s contribution to fertility and science.
…lol
Ok, you win. That Lady Gaga is so obscure, I’m not even sure why we have a thread about her. On the other hand, we’ve got that whole Nadya Soleman forum full of posts about her. OP, what were you thinking starting such a random thread? 
I’m frankly incredulous that people on an intelligent message board consider a pop singer more relevant than a debate about medical ethics and benefit spending. A pop singer, at that, who has so little to say that not one of her fans in this thread will quote her lyrics. Relevance != popularity, talent, or for that matter media presence.
So, you also think that Octomom has more global name recognition than Lady Gaga? Because, see, that’s what we were discussing— not who contributed more to fruitful debate and education in the world.