I think even though The Fame and The Fame Monster are two different albums, they should be counted as one “album campaign”, meaning that for all intents and purposes this upcoming record is Gaga’s second go-around, meaning it’s a pretty guaranteed hit. I agree that the third (which will technically be the fourth) album will be where we see whether she’ll last for decades and be a legend or become simply a defining popstar “of her time”.
Where are you getting this?
I hope she’ll be relevant, just like how Madonna remained relevant for decades (whilst turning out pretty substandard music, admittedly).
I think that she’ll move out from the dance pop segment, though. Just look at “Speechless”, a Queen-esque rock ballad, which she was pushing pretty hard last year. I remember she did a rock song during one of her concerts, which she said was going to be in her next album, too - oh wait, latest news, her new album is going to be part rock. Ha!
I like that though, all dance all the time gets a bit old.
There does?
What spark said.
Would someone who’s just doing it as a “default” go to lengths like this?
A message from Lady Gaga to the Senate Sept 16 2010
There is still a significant portion of the population that’s actively on the opposite side of the gay-rights debate, and someone only bent on milking her commercial success would actively avoid pronounced political statements along these lines.
Too soon to say. She certainly has all the makings of a lasting sensation, and her first album was really solid, and she currently has quite a love affair going with her fans, but the real test will be her second album.
I’m not a fan of pop music but I have respect for Lady Gaga. She clearly knows the formula for catchy easy-to-remember tunes. She’s professional and is in the media often but only when she wants to be. For a woman with really average looks she’s gotten far on moxie. She’s the 00’s answer to Madonna.
I realize I didn’t comment specifically on the music: her music is very well-crafted pop. Very similar the the stuff being put out by artists working with the top pop songwriters, like Max Martin, Dr. Luke, The-Dream or the Neptunes (Pharrell). Yes, it’s pop, but it craft is at the highest level and will get a lot of play as people look for the songs that will endure from this period that were also popular, not emerging stuff…
…add to that her persona and look and yeah, she is much more than just a random Britney Spears or pop clone.
You’re welcome not to like her - I certainly don’t seek out her music or videos - but I totally get what she represents on the pop scene and it is nowhere near just a flash-in-the-pan…
She has the talent. She’ll still be relevant a year from now if she doesn’t fall madly in love and quit touring, doesn’t run out of good material, and doesn’t get bored with the whole thing.
The promotion, stylization, and presentation of the Fame and the Fame Monster were two totally different beasts. The Fame was light, sexy pop music (and she was a blond, sexy pop star) and TFM was dark, artistic, and downright weird (but I liked it). Like I said, I went to the Monster Ball (so, for the Fame Monster) and she came out wearing an outfit made entirely of dinosaur bones. Then committed suicide on stage later. My point is: that shit didn’t go down during the Fame.
Nah, you can always go lower. I’d like to see Gaga wear gagh.
Another thing to remember: She was born in 1986. As of this writing, she is 24 years old. When The Fame came out, she was 22.
Yes, there have been pop-starlets who have been younger - Brittany and all - but they seemed a lot more “managed”. With Gaga, she’s got her image just like they do/did, but I don’t get the feeling that it’s something that was created by someone else for marketability purposes. It’s all her ideas, her creation.
I came to that conclusion way back in junior high school (30 years ago). I got tired of listening to my peers declare that such-and-such artist “sucks” when what they really meant was “I don’t like it” (or, as often, “I won’t look cool if I admit to liking it”). Maybe it’s largely because I’ve always been a musician myself — I’ve played many different instruments over the years, as well as many different styles, from orchestral to jazz to country to heavy metal, in addition to being a composer and songwriter in a number of different genres. I’ve heard plenty of music over the years that I didn’t “like”, but the musician side of me can still recognize the talent of the artist.
I’m also a professional cook/chef with 27 years experience, and it occurs to me that music is a lot like food. Is Paul Prudhomme a lousy cook, or do I just not care for Cajun food? Is McDonald’s great food, or just popular?
Lady Gaga has genuine talent.
The new Madonna? So far she’s the new Spice Girls. The jumping on the bandwagon of causes, the teaching young fans that “female empowerment”=“dressing like a slut” and, in the stuff I’ve heard, a complete lack of musical substance. In this whole thread of people praising her, I’ve not seen a single quote from her lyrics, and I can’t remember any I’ve heard. Maybe someone will prove me wrong, but I doubt she’s any real influence on people when she’s saying nothing. Relevant? No. She’s fashion, not style, a flash in the pan that will soon be forgotten.
Dude, it’s pop music, not Leonard Cohen.
That’s my point.
Oh, her lyrics are brilliant. Just brilliant:
Was it Shakespeare that originally rhymed club with sippin’ bubb?
Note to mods: That’s technically only about 1/3rd of the song, but then, it kinda just keeps repeating the same shit over and over.
Good lord. I’m off to listen to Motley Crue for intelligence and depth of feeling, if that’s what’s “inspiring” the kids now.
Because I am not saying that. I am saying that she is not relevent now, she still won’t be in 12 months and in a few years she will be on a VH1 “Where are they now?” episode. She has a few hit songs that don’t really stand out from others like Katy Perry and Beyonce musically and a fashion hook that will wear out quickly and is not being copied in pop culture.
I’m proud of my generation. Here in 2010, after years of preparation and infighting, we’ve finally become the first to reach a point where we can take the popular music of today, and compare it to the popular music of our youth. What’s more, we’ve managed to do so unfavorably. It’s a bold move, and surely a sign of things to come.