Cite?
Cite?
Filing suit is not campaigning. It’s the opposite, actually. Again, 30 states or more have voter ID laws. Democrats are campaigning publicly to overturn them in exactly zero. Court cases is a different matter, that’s the anti-democratic way to do it. Doesn’t mean it’s not justified, some voter ID laws are unconstitutional. But a party confident in its rightness on this issue would make it an important part of a campaign.
Just so you know, addy, when we talk about our problems with voter id laws, it doesn’t have much to do with the laws themselves, or the validity thereof, or even the incredible absolutely overwhelming nearly unanimous popularity of those laws. It has to do with perverting the law to serve the partisan electoral advantage of a particular party. The Republican Party, in case that needs to be said.
Telling us how popular the laws are is beside the point, as is telling us how legal and constitutional they are. Done right, done with a firm commitment to equality in the polling place, there is nothing inherently wrong with voter id, so long as the state that requires them is willing to go the extra mile to ensure equality.
You may, if you wish, pretend that such applications of the law that we’ve seen are strictly non-partisan and not crafted to offer unearned political advantage to Republicans. You can pretend to believe that, of course you can! I don’t really believe you are that stupid, but if it will make you feel more welcome, I will try to pretend that I do.
Acting!
Do you have a cite for the bolded assertion? :dubious:
How do the pollers define “Hispanic”? Do they include Cuban-Americans as being “Hispanic”? You are aware, I am sure, that Cuban-Americans in Florida are well and widely known for their lockstep support of anything Republican. Is their continuing support supposed to represent some remarkable fact?
If Democrats agree then how do they lose?
Adaher, my friend, you simply don’t know what you’re talking about here.
There are members of my extended family who live below the poverty line in their states, work, and have no documentation their states consider an acceptable form of ID. Forcing them to obtain a form of ID acceptable to their state for voting purposes would present a hardship, especially for those who live a great distance from the nearest facility and have no car, as well as the high probability of having to do this during a work day, which would necessitate losing a day’s pay, or worse, possibly their jobs.
This article discusses why some people have difficulty meeting the new ID requirement.
Oh my. “It’s taking longer than we thought” indeed. :dubious:
There are 1000-post threads refuting your claims. I think even Professor Bricker had his ignorance successfully fought (though he views disenfranchisement as a feature, not a bug).
When come back, bring clue.
The only kinds of fraud that ever swing elections are ballot-box stuffing and dishonest vote-counting. Which are not done by the voters.
And here’s the Brennan Center’s report.
That’s because so many of them are oligarchs who fled Cuba when their good buddy, the dictator Batista, went down. Of COURSE they love the Republican Party, these wealthy hangers-on of a corrupt oligarchy know kindred souls when they see them.
Thanks for the article. Interesting, yet somewhat infuriating, to read something that confirms my relatives’ circumstances.
It is sad to note that, as far as people like **adaher **are concerned, these people don’t exist.
Voter ID was a huge part of the election, both its implementation by nakedly partisan GOP officials and the righteous anger at voter suppression that prompted millions to vote in record numbers. Remember the polls to which you were so famously enamored with on this board, how you claimed everyone except Fox and conservative media outlets were wrong, that only you guys had the “real” numbers? How’d that work out for you? Hell, you disappeared in embarrassment for weeks after the election, and now you’re here again peddling the same brand of bullshit like you have a goldfish’s memory for being wrong.
Here’s what you need to accept. The polls were right about Democratic support. Conservative media was dead wrong. Liberal and non-biased media established its credibility, yet again, by a huge margin of victory for Obama. And now these same people are telling you something again that you refuse to hear: Voter ID doesn’t protect the vote, it prevents voting, and mainly Democratic voting. If that bothers you, which I’m not sure it does, then you should be against Voter ID and Voter Fraud Reform, since it either doesn’t exist or is perpetuated by conservatives.
Again, I’m not going to spend a lot of time on this trying to convince you, you’ve shown little ability to learn from past conservative mistakes. This thread proves its point: you haven’t learned. Conservatives haven’t learned. And you will lose and lose bigger and bigger until you do.
Your ONLY recourse is to admit that you cannot and will not get close to 100% of what you want politically. You have to give up some beliefs so that you’ll survive. Call it karma because it sure ain’t god’s doing, but entrenched beliefs of conservatives need to be taken out to the back and put out of its misery You will not win by calling immigrants “illegal” and deporting children, you will not win by continuing to block women’s health or gay marriage, and you will not win if you don’t give up some defense spending for social spending. Then again, I don’t want you guys to win, so keep doing what you’re doing 
From your lips to Rick Perry’s ears, Yog.
We also point to the W/Cheney DoJ’s failure to find any there there after eight years of desperate hunting. And the firing of U.S. attorneys who balked.
GOP’s 20-week abortion ban supported by 48-44 margin. Women favor the ban more than men:
Why are Democrats waging a war against women?
Why are you waging a war for ignorance?
Indeed that poll you are talking about is not coming from a well renown pollster and then there is the problem that one poll can only get you an outlier with that error level.
Most likely, as the last cite reports, the poll got what it wanted by being a leading questioning one.
Another thing he was told again and again before the election: never use a single poll as a predictor. Never. On any subject.
Goldfish memory, indeed.
It’s not the only poll showing support for restrictions on abortion after the first trimester. It’s a pretty extensively polled subject.
Democrats are demonstrating their ignorance here by telling Republicans to ditch their popular positions rather than their unpopular ones. In a thread about why Republicans lost, that’s very strange.
If we are to believe the posters here, Republicans should become pro-choice, abandon the idea of American exceptionalism, and join the few Americans(almost all democrats) who oppose voter ID.
I think even Bob Shrum would be laughing his ass off at that kind of advice.