I know the Dope is largely against Trump and in some cases physically ill by the thought of him being president. I’m interested if you find out that there is some policy or two of his, will you be able to easily recognize that you might be ok with a particular policy and actually might agree with it? I’m seeing a couple of things starting to pop up (like his ban on lobbying) that people are kind of ok with. THere’s still a considerable amount of doubt or ‘yes…but…’ statements. But I would be interested in knowing how easy or hard it is for anti-Trumpers to come to the realization that they might actually agree and like or promote his policies.
I see Bernie is not automatically trashing him, and says he will be an ally http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/17/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-allies/index.html
P.S. I feel like I have to disclose; that I didn’t vote for trump, I’m an ‘anti-2 party’ stalwart; but I’m coming to the realization that Trump may be attractive to me because he appears (Maybe…fingers crossed) to not be beholden to tout the party line at all costs (either republican or democrat). He’s practically/nearly destroyed the republican party; and I’m likely to view ideas that break up the two party system with some positivity.
I’m fine with infrastructure upgrade - if there is an infrastructure bill.
I could be OK with some SCOTUS appointments. Replacing aging military vehicles and aircraft, yes. Jobs for the Rust Belt and Appalachia - if he can do that - yes.
It depends on what he does. If he does the following I can get behind them.
Infrastructure building
Protecting social security, medicare and medicaid
Trying to create jobs for working class people (of course, how do you do that)
Fixing the revolving door between lobbyists and the government
Letting medicare negotiate Rx prices
Creating a form of Glass Steagall
If he actually proposes these things, then yeah he will have my support.
Too much of his infrastructure plan involves private investment. So only profitable projects will be done?
He expects others to put up money and take the risk? Sounds way too familiar.
How many companies does he own that could be bidding on contracts?
I’m fine with his marijuana policy but would prefer it to be descheduled.
Maybe make it equal to alcohol.
On nearly every topic, he’s expressed support for policies I like. On all of the same topics, he’s also expressed support for the opposite policy. The only policies he’s been consistent on are the deplorable ones.
I tried to word it as future tense…if you find out…I’m not making the assumption that these are executive policies that have gone through. I’m just trying gauge how easily people who are anti-trump, might agree with some of his ideas that he is planning (supposedly) on implementing.
When he starts putting out actual policy instead of Tourette-driven fantasies, then I can tell you. Until then I’ve got to believe him when he says he wants to get rid of all the Muslims and Mexicans, and I’ve gotta say… no thanks.
I think when he says what he wants to do (building a giant wall for example), that’s exactly what he wants to do. It’s predicated on the political support he can muster for that cause. If enough people want him to build a wall, that’s exactly what he will do.
But that’s a campaign slogan. If we’re talking about policy, an expression of will about the laws that a government should pass, I don’t think I’ve seen him make such an utterance. I’m pretty sure I’ll oppose whatever he says, but he’s been pretty good about avoiding any decisive position whatsoever.
There is zero actually content in any of Trump’s ‘proposals’ as presented on his webite. (Having studied his energy ‘policy’ in the depth such a shallow pool allows I am inferring by similarity but a cursory review displays a similar lack of depth or insight.) The only infrastructure proposals he is going to support are those that line his own pockets (or rather, those of his ‘blind trust’ managed by his children). I guarantee that he gives fuck all for Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, jobs for the working class, lobbyists, and doesn’t even know what the Glass-Steagall Act is.
I couldn’t really care for Clinton, had no respect for Sanders, thought Stein was pandering to anti-scientific movements, and that Johnson was only useful as a future Celebrity Jeopardy contestant, and yet, any one of them would have been preferable to Trump. Trump’s only realistic policy are those that enrich Donald Trump because his is exactly the character he describes in The Art of the Deal: a lying, manipulative huckster whose only motivation is his personal wealth and vanity. Has no one else read this book? This is like voting for Hitler without having read Mein Kampf. Do you not understand what the candidate has plainly stated about his motivations and view of the world in his own words? This is like voting for Robert Greene without having read The 48 Laws of Power, and then being shocked that your avowed leader is an unredeemable sociopath. Everything you need to understand Trump’s motivations is in your public library. Nobody should be comfortable with anything Trump ‘says’ because he’ll renegotiate any ‘deal’ as suits his interests.
I didn’t vote for him. As others have said his actual proposals as laid out on his website (as opposed to what he might say off the cuff) were light on substance. I did like the idea of medical premiums being tax deductible. I chose to be hopeful that when confronted with real world problems he makes pragmatic decisions. I’m not going to assume things will go well but until they don’t I chose to be hopeful.
So far as I can tell, he’s just said different things at different times, with no particular thought or analytic policy method attached.
And I never thought of thinking for myself at all No, he never thought of thinking for himself at all
I thought so little, they rewarded me
By making me the Ruler of this big country!
As others have mentioned there is a void of substantive information. Having said this with full control of all branches of government the GOP can actually pass legislation so things can actually happen vs the virtual gridlock of the last 4 years. And there are things that *need *fixing.
Infrastructure investment
Immigration policies
Health care - #1!
The question for me is the GOP’s ability to construct useful legislation that actually meaningfully addresses these issues and is not some whagarble white paper shitshow of conservative fantasies and blowjobs for big donors and powerful interest groups. Can they get this done? The old “responsible” GOP, probably… the current stew of ideologues and Tea Party yahoos? I don’t know if they can step up even if they wanted to.
I agree with his personal dietary policy. At his age and weight when combined with the additional stress of his newfound job, a massive coronary may be soon tapping him on the shoulder.
Hmmm. It does sound to me that there is absolutely nothing he could do that wouldn’t criticized by a faction here, possibly even if he were to implement policies that would be agreeable should Hillary have made them. I could be wrong though, but this is pretty similar to what I’ve heard for the last 8 years from my republican contacts…didn’t matter that Obama says something that would be agreeable if a Republican said it…they just dismiss any possibility of acceptance out of hand because…Obama.
I see there are others that are more open to the possibility of being ok with some concepts, but some are not. I find that interesting
A few of his “concepts” sound OK. But the Devil is in the details. Also–what will the Republican Congress let him get away with? He’s no LBJ, able to wheel & deal on Capitol Hill. (Which is not Trump Tower–he won’t be surrounded by Yes Men outside the White House.)
For example, “infrastructure improvement” sounds good–it’s certainly needed & a source of jobs. But hints I’ve read involved funds going to private corporations–to create projects requiring the public to pay tolls.
Let me see some actual policies & I’ll let you know. He’s still hiring minions. Or his kids are…