Wimmin Dopers, I have a moisturizer problem

Ugh, all this peeling and exfoliating sounds awfully hard on dry skin - which is usually thin and tender skin.

I’ve made a facial serum (no alcohol, emulsifiers or added water, just balanced oils) which is pretty damn good. It’s carrotseed oil, rose hip seed oil and jojoba, with chamomile and lavender essential oils. It’s great for moisturizing, as well as relieving redness and preventing breakouts.

But for the master of all facial serums, call my teacher, whose number can be found on her website. She makes a facial serum to die for, and mine is an only partially successful attempt to clone hers. I don’t think it’s listed on her website, because it’s a special order product, but it’s all natural and premium quality oils and essential oils, all or almost all organic. It’s expensive (though not as expensive as La Mer), but you literally need only three or four drops a day, it spreads so well and absorbs right in.

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I do a “deep moisterize” with vaseline once a week in the winter. This is going to sound gross, but, slather the vaseline over your face. Get a washcloth really hot. Set hot wash cloth over face. The washcloth will cool off, so warm it up and do it again - maybe three or four times. Get a kleenex and wipe off the now melty vaseline.

I’ve had expensive moisterizers and haven’t had one that’s any better that the stuff I buy at Walgreens.
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Question: doesn’t it clog your pores? Whenever I used anything with petrolatum in it, I break out. That’s why I buy the Nature’s Gate stuff, because it seems to have the least amount of pore-clogging ingredients. Though almond oil might work well too.

Aveeno is good. Kiehl’s might work–I haven’t tried their face lotion, because the cheap stuff works fine for me, but everything else I’ve used of theirs has been good.

Lay off the exfoliation a little. Seriously, unless you have an oily or combination skin you probably don’t need to exfoliate more than about twice a month - more than that will dry your skin out worse (as opposed to removing the flakies, which is what I assume you’re doing it for).

I’ll second Eucern - it contains Urea which is a great hydrator.

Finally, seeing a dermatologist if you have one/can afford it (I don’t know how these things work in the US) is always a good idea.

FWIW - despite being a high maintenance pain in the ass, I would never spend $250 for La Mer - I spend $50 for Biotherm and feel like a bit of a tool for that (although it really does make a difference for my skin).

My face tends to be oily but I’ve found that when I use moisturizer it cuts down on the amount of grease my pores put out so my skin looks more matte and less shiny. I use Dr. Bronner’s Peppermint liquid soap on my face in the morning followed by Malibu Hemp lotion I get at Wallymart. It’s light and goes into the skin quickly and doesn’t feel greasy. Then a I use a hot washcloth on my face in the evening to get all the daily grime off, and put on some Tree Hut Shea Butter lotion–I used to use the Mango which is yummy but now I use the regular stuff, which smells like coconut crunch donuts and doesn’t feel as sticky on the skin. This regimen is doing wonders for the back of my hands as well, which are more true indicators of my age than my face skin is–women in my family don’t wrinkle, it’s kinda nice…

Could your cleanser be part of the problem?

Also, perhaps you are OVERexfoliating?

I would see an esthetician, get a nice, soothing, moisturizing facial, and then try the moisturizer THEY recommend. It’s bound to be cheaper than La Mer.

I saw a TV study once that showed oil-water emulsions (most moisturisers) are actually long-term drying on skin. Can’t find any cite for that but, eh, I have found that switching to facial oils has done wonders for my skin. I also won’t exfoliate other than an occasional gentle buff with a warm steamy facial cloth as, again in the long-term, it makes my skin flake and dry out even more. Facial oils do seem to help the skin to be able to heal itself and also to regulate its own moisture levels. I used to have dry cheeks and an oily T-zone and the oils have even sorted out the oil problem! These days I mix my own out of jojoba oil, a few drops of avocado oil, apricot kernel oil, and a small amount of expensive rose absolute and neroli oils. I like not having loads of chemical stuff on my face if possible. I use a few drops in a very thin layer over freshly washed and still damp skin.

I’ll also use vaseline when my eczema gets really bad. I’ll start off with my oil, then use a small dab of vaseline rubbed between my fingers to add a small amount of extra protection to particularly sore and red patches.

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Over the years, my facial skin has gotten progressively drier and scalier. I exfoliate regularly and use sunscreen, but I can’t seem to find a good, velvety feeling moisturizer that doesn’t feel like a glob of petroleum jelly. Most dry and extra dry creams are rather runny and seem to evaporate after about 30 minutes. What are your favorites that do the job? Although I hadn’t wanted to spend a huge amount of money, I’ll do what it takes to keep my skin soft. I’ve heard a lot of comments, good and bad, about La Mer skin cream that costs about $250.00 for an ounce! :eek:

For those of you who use La Mer and swear by it, why do you think the price is worth it? For those of you who use La Mer and swear at it, why do you think it’s over-rated? If you use another dry skin cream that you love, please list it here. Thanks for your responses.
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Another vote for Bag Balm. I slather it on at night around 7 or 8 and let it sit till I’m ready to go to bed. Then I tissue it off. I also find an olive oil cleanser (I use the one by DHC Skin Care - www.dhccare.com) is wonderful.

VCNJ~

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When my mother was in the US she discovered something called “Bag Balm” (aka “Cow titty cream”). In industrial qualities it’s used by farmers on cow udders to stop chapping from the milking machines, but some stores sell it in personal amounts, usually a few ounces to a jar. Mum has been using it for a couple of years now and it’s pretty good stuff (she gets me to rub it on her back sometimes). It’s kind of mid-weightish, so it’s not like rubbing vaseline on your skin but it doesn’t run off and disappear in a few seconds either, you’ve got to work it for a few minutes to get it all in.

It’s done wonders for her. It’s cleared up a lot of dryness and itchy/scaliness she has on her shoulders, and when I rub it on her back for her I do find my hands are really soft and nice for the rest of the day. Apparently it’s dirt cheap, too (though not available in Aus so she’s got to get friends to ship it over from the US for her).
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We have something called “Melkfett” (melking fat) in Germany, used also by farmers for cow udders, and available cheaply. I have heard several recommendations, because apparently, it’s mostly made from Lanolin (wool fat) which is very natural for human skin.

My ceramics class had a huge tube of Cow Udder cream that we used on our hands after every class. Worked like charm, but can’t imagine using it on my face.

Something I recomend (IANAD, just someone with dry skin on my hands) is simple Aloe Vera gell. Get some of the clear, 98% gell (I buy mine at the drug-store, but I’ve seen it in health-product stores and such places as well.) It doesn’t make your skin sticky or oily at all, it feels just like water, really cool and nice, and soaks right in. It works wonders on my hands, and cleared up a weird dry parth on my cheek that just would’nt go away in a matter of days. Great for eczema as well, according to a friend of mine.

In theory, you should be able to just get an actual Aloe Vera plant, and just break off a leaf and use the sapp directly. I havent tried this though, since I have a soft heart for any plants in my care, but the same friend claims this works, as does my boyfriend shrug

Doesn’t count as “cream” but its the only skin-care product I really like.

Spring 2006, a German consumerorganisation tested different facial cremes.

At the top (awarded a 90 out of a 100) came Creme de la Mer, at 41 euro’s per 10 ml.
Second best was plain old Nivea in the blue can, at 8 eurocents per 10 ml. Nivea was rated 70 out of 100.

In that same test they tested anti-wrinkle creams. Best was Nivea Vital triple action, (rated 78 out ot 100) and second best eas La Prairie, rated 50 out of a 100 and about 20 times as expensive as Nivea Vital.

I like MOISTURE THERAPY Intensive Extra Strength Cream from Avon. $6 for a 5.3 oz jar. I swear by the Mositure Therapy stuff, particularily the lib balm and hand lotion. Very effective and not oogy feeling. Also virtually no scent, so if’t good for guys not wanting to smell like a tampax box :eek:

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Second best was plain old Nivea in the blue can, at 8 eurocents per 10 ml. Nivea was rated 70 out of 100.
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My granduncle was the head of a dermatology department/hospital. That’s the only skin care product that he ever recommends to anyone.

Wow! Thanks for all of your responses. In answer to a couple of posts, it’s possible that I’ve been over exfoliating. I use the L’oreal 2 piece kit about 2-3 times a week and I’ve really scrubbed hard, trying to get rid of that scaley patch right between my eyes. I guess I’ll switch to a gentler cleanser and a simple oil moisturizer and cut down with all of the fancy exfoliating until my face settles down.

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Wow! Thanks for all of your responses. In answer to a couple of posts, it’s possible that I’ve been over exfoliating. I use the L’oreal 2 piece kit about 2-3 times a week and I’ve really scrubbed hard,
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!! :eek: !!

Uh, yah. I think I would cut that out. Like, Right Frikin’ Now!

Holy crap man - I’m surprised your face hasn’t fallen off!!

A-holy crap, medstar! I exfoliate, but only twice a month with generic apricot scrub. I wouldn’t scrub any harder than I would when washing my face. You want to make sweet love to your face, not treat it like Spike.

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A-holy crap, medstar! I exfoliate, but only twice a month with generic apricot scrub. I wouldn’t scrub any harder than I would when washing my face. You want to make sweet love to your face, not treat it like Spike.
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Treat it like Spike, and soon it’ll *look *like Spike.

(Sorry about that pic. Here, does this one make up for it?)

[QUOTE=WhyNot]
Treat it like Spike, and soon it’ll *look *like Spike.

(Sorry about that pic. Here, does this one make up for it?)
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Oh, I’d say so. How wrong is it that I’m sitting here, cackling to myself?

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Question: doesn’t it clog your pores? Whenever I used anything with petrolatum in it, I break out. That’s why I buy the Nature’s Gate stuff, because it seems to have the least amount of pore-clogging ingredients. Though almond oil might work well too.
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Doesn’t clog mine. I have never broken out doing this - but I don’t break out from much (having my eyebrows waxed will do it).