Windsor Knot or Windsor Not

Half-Windsor all the way. Specially when tie-fashion goes wide, I call a full Windsor, The Goiter

Actually, if you know my situation you’d be screaming that my life is exactly as you portrayed the the modern workforce. :wink:

Our office dress code is nonexistent with the only rule being “Don’t come to work stinky”

And the company pays my cell phone bill.

Not sure what your point is, but hey, keep fucking that chicken.

Seriously, it’s a kiddie knot. A windsor is way too big a knot, the half windsor is the perfect size for a knot. Personally, I prefer the self releasing half windsor.

Knots that don’t release are for chumps.

I find it funny that such a small thing as what tie knot you use is considered such a big deal. To me, it seems more like something particularly fashionable people would care about. I personally can’t imagine even noticing what knot was used.

I’ve never understood why no one has every come up with a knot that actually lets you adjust the tie to the right length after the tie is tied. nor why no one has come up with a better simulation than the clip-on. Seems you could have a tie that appears to go all the way around your neck, but still essentially clips on.

They’d be a lot better than even the half Windsor, which still takes up too much tie, leaving you without enough tail to tack/tuck into the slit on the back.

Yeah, the four in hand is for your first recital.

Granted, he was writing more than 30 years ago, but Paul Fussell offers some interesting observations on the class inferences to be drawn from how you knot your tie. Moreover, the book in question, Class, is rather prejudiced towards usages in the American northeast. Still, the underlying principle seems valid, to wit: the full Windsor is the favorite of high school boys everywhere, as he puts it. In grown men it betrays the anxiety typical of the middle class, as of one fearful of being called down by the HR department for a dress code violation. The middle class American , so Fussell, imagines wrongly that the upper classes are characterized by increasing fastidiousness and neatness of dress, the higher we look up the class ladder. Actually the most neatly dressed member of an upper class household is likely to be a servant.

By contrast, the half-Windsor knot is a typical expression of a more relaxed attitude which is characteristic of the upper classes. Certainly a suit will be worn when called for, and a well fitted one at that, but the tie knot will not be so fastidiously symmetrical or so tightly cinched. The HW knot is perfect for this because it’s asymmetrical by its very nature.

To state Fussell’s argument more concisely: you inflict “class damage” on yourself by being fastidiously clean when you should be filthy, or excessively neat when you should be more relaxed in your appearance.

I don’t necessarily agree with the author on all that he says, but it’s nevertheless a fascinating read.

I call it the Battenberg-Sachsen-Coburg knot.

My dad flies into town every morning to tie my tie for me. I’ll have to ask him what knot he uses.

Really? This is the place where if you forget a comma or apostrophe assholes jump your shit.

It’s 2 spaces after punctuation that ends the sentence, jerkbag, not 1. FFS learn to format properly or GTFO. WHAT ARE THEY TEACHING YOU KIDS THESE DAYS??!??!!

From the number of misspellings in this thread, evidently “they” aren’t teaching spelling these days!

In many jobs just turning off the phone isn’t an option. Having to be “on call” is undoubtedly part of many more jobs and professions than it used to be.

Swear, I read that 4 times before I didn’t see ‘rectal’.

If they do, better wear a four-in-hand.

Obviously, and I’d say this even if I didn’t know it, you are Israeli. You guys wouldn’t wear a tie to a white-tie dinner.

Bookmarked! I have a long torso but I have a tie that is long, thin, and light enough to make that work.

I use a half-Windsor when the ties isn’t long enough for the Windsor.

Well to be pedantic two spaces after a period was introduced for typewriters due to each letter occupying the same space and is horrible to typesetters to this day. Courier font still requires double spacing but otherwise…:stuck_out_tongue:

A full Darwin is when a person does something so stupid it kills him. A half-Darwin is when it merely injures him.

FYI if you use a full Windsor Knot, everybody is laughing at you behind your back.

I guess my first post came off as sarcastic. It wasn’t. So my point was that it WOULD be nice to be able to just turn the phone off and not deal with work issues at all odd times.

As for the Chicken -
Oh sure! Bring up the chicken again and just re-open that old heartache! You know damn good and well the chicken left me for an egg. And I hear that they are no longer “the perfect couple”; something about never achieving a simultaneous O. One of them always comes first but no clue as to which one.