Windsor Knot or Windsor Not

Bow ties are only cool if they’re the battery-powered variety that spin around.

There are even “zipper” ties, which basically have a zipper that tightens a loop around the wearer’s neck. The knot is never messed with.

Wow. The next time a woman here says that she doesn’t dress for men, and a whole bunch of men dismiss the possibility, I’m going to link to this thread and remind y’all that no woman in the history of ever has noticed or given a shit about your knot. :smiley:

I’m using at least four different types of tie knots, depending on the thickness of the tie and the spread of the collar.

The full Windsor is great for thin-ish ties in wide collars. I prefer the self-releasing variation.
Half Windsor and Pratt/Shelby goes with normal thickness ties in medium narrow collars. With a little bit of care, the self-releasing half Windsor can look very symmetrical.
The four-in-hand is nice with thick wool ties. With most silk ties, though, it’s just too narrow and asymmetrical, and IMO you’ll look like a schoolboy. It can work for a narrow black tie, combined with a white shirt and a fedora, though :cool:

Bow ties are for black tie occasions or for that eccentric professor look. On my side of the pond, a bolo tie is only suitable if you’re also wearing cowboy boots and listen to C&W music daily. And never for a formal occasion.
I’d like to wear a tie more often than I do, but if I start wearing one on a regular basis at work, they’re probably going to think I’m even more weird than I am. Whenever I wear something more formal than jeans and a T-shirt on a normal workday, I’m overdressed…

Had a mess trying to make sense of that link till I found a piece of string to practice.

Turns out I use a co-half windsor, i.e. the self-releasing windsor. It is a symmetrical tie, it is easy to undo, and uses a lot less tie than a Full Windsor.

The four-in-hand is the one that looks lopsided.

Should add that I rarely wear a tie. My job I often wear jeans and a button shirt. But I did learn back when I was supposed to wear a tie every day.

I stopped wearing ties 15 years ago, and have no regrets so far.

I am surprised so many people are calling the half Windsor an asymmetric knot. If your half Windsor is asymmetric, you are doing it wrong.

Personally I’m a big fan of the Eldritch knot. Never have been able to get a clear photo of it for some reason.

Ah, but what tie knot is it that you don’t use? If it’s a half windsor that you’re not tying, you should be ashamed.

Really up to the wearer – a matter of tightening the knot to where you want it. So you can actually get either result. Also, when the tie fabric allows, I always recommend a dimple for added panache.

The Windsor knot is by far the most elegant and superior method of tying a tie, unless the wearer falls into that small minority of tie wearers whose neck is smaller in circumference than a fire hydrant, or whose head may be smaller than a modestly sized watermelon. In either or both of these unlikely events, a more subdued knot may be appropriate.

Then again, it can be offset by combining it with other fashion mistakes. I mean, do you really notice the Windsor in that pic?

Oh, certainly. The Windsor is blowing his Hairsor all over the Fucksor.

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Just thought I ought to add that Jon Stewart doesn’t like bowties.

This.

And this: There is the Windsor and the double Windsor. The double Windsor is way too big and looks stupid. Reserved for the clueless and those who wear polyester.

Apparently not.


[QUOTE=Thomas Fink (Author of The 85 Ways to Tie a Tie)]
Keep in mind that the half-Windsor is sometimes a victim of the erroneous naming convention used to describe both it and the Windsor, calling them the Windsor and double-Windsor. There is no such thing as a double Windsor…
[/quote]

“…There is no such thing as a double Windsor…”

There are plenty of sites claiming both.

“James Bond never trusted a man who boasted a Windsor Knot; “It was tied with a Windsor knot. Bond mistrusted anyone who tied his tie with a Windsor knot. It showed too much vanity. It was often the mark of a cad.” -From Russia With Love”

Except for the fact - which already has been mentioned - that there is no such thing as a “double” Windsor, it all depends on the collar spread and the thickness & width of the tie. You’ll look pretty ridiculous with a delicate tie in thin silk tied in a four-in-hand inside a wide collar. It’ll look like a shoelace with an overhand knot.

And every polyester tie I’ve handled (I currently have none, though), has been too thick and stiff for a full Windsor.

Why is it that I can often watch hours of expensively produced professional comedy entertainment on film or television without getting more than a few mild chuckles out of it, but be reduced to tears and snorting at a few typed quips that a bunch of smartass Dopers flung onto the internet in their spare time for free?

Either y’all are just on average way funnier than real comedians or else I am just pathologically predisposed to laughter on seeing the Arial typeface.