Wisconsin GOP passes union-stripping bill

No. I get paid. I don’t get paid by the hour, but I get paid for the results I deliver. Delivering those results means that I handle issues that happen early in the morning and later in the evening when they happen. My employer appreciates this and pays me for it.

There’s no “extra 5 hours.” Because there’s no 8 hour day in my job.

Again, the liberal mind in its programmed little course.

No student loans, and no need-based scholarships, either for undergraduate or law school.

Academic based scholarship, yes. EARNED by my grades.

Liberal: “Daaaaaang! I thought we were all sharing the same deck?” :confused:

You might try asking yourself this: why do you so desperately want to cling to the idea that luck, or the generous liberal programs, MUST have been a factor? You twist and turn, desperate to find something that you can use to say, “Ah ha! See! It wasn’t hard work at all!”

I think it’s because liberals, despite lip service to the concept, DON’T believe in hard work. They think it’s a lottery, because to face up to the contrary fact would seriously hurt their most cherished concepts.

Excellent analogy.

The liberal seems to picture that if someone has wealth, it was taken from someone else. The idea the people’s work creates wealth is frightening and foreign to the liberal mind.

And Bricker finally, conclusively proves that he doesn’t believe in the truth and that he’s just another conservaliar.

Hehe, more of the same from the usual idiots. The greatest liberal douche hits just keep on rolling.

I think the daughter thing and “how’d you pay for law school” thing just about cover it though. See you all in a few months when we do this thread again.

We all know my job. And my life is fair game to prove some point about luck (which has failed thus far).

So let’s see how the shoe fits on the other foot.

What do you do, again, margin? Supermodel? CEO? Test pilot? How has the luck of the draw treated you in life? How have you used your (ha! ha!) shining intellect to better your lot in life?

Color me unimpressed. Virtually all academic scholarships have some need component, whether they say so or not. His persecution complex is overpowering. If he thinks that I think he’s an asshole because he’s conservative he’s wrong. In truth, he’s conservative because he’s an asshole.

I accept my limitations, that is why I can’t ever be an English teacher even if I have found my reading comprehension is superiors to many natives. :slight_smile: . My academic forte is Social Studies; however, the new rules do not cover just teachers that only teach English.

You see, there is a little bit of history that needs to be explained: Until recently students that were not fluent in English had a chance to get remedial or extra classes to keep up, but then the law was changed to eliminate that and integrate the language improvement to all other subjects, science, math, etc.

So then the conservative controlled department of education goes forward and interprets that, when they are students still learning English (A certainty in many districts), therefore now all subjects require teachers that not only are fluent in grammar, but also that students can understand them properly.

So this would not be happening if they had not pressed for English immersion, it is indeed sink or swim for students, but also teachers that do not teach english are affected.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/teachers/heavily-accented-teachers-remo.html

Of course it predated the tea party, but the ones interpreting the law now are.

Incidentally, the opening I got to get into teaching was thanks to the rules under “no child left behind”, as they needed teachers to pass a test to demonstrate that they are knowledgeable in their subject I was paid by one of the principals in the former charter school I was to take the state exam in social studies, I aced the test on the first try, but then this issue cropped up, so it is back to IT. Luckily :slight_smile: I have several ways to progress under my belt.

Dogma, straight from the conservative catechism, an article of faith to be accepted without question, without proof.

Good thing they don’t come to your door, isn’t it? The little ones, pobrecitos. begging bowls thrust towards you in grubby little hands, beseeching Head Start, hot lunches, health care. Good thing you don’t have to look into their eyes when you say “No”, you might see your own beloved, there but for the grace of St. Ayn…

What if they aren’t as smart as you, Bricker? What then, what if they don’t have the crisp intelligence you so proudly display to us? Did you earn it? How? However were you smart enough to realize you had to?

Whatever shall we do with all of these useless people? More to the point, whatever shall we do with all their children? Can we devise some legal mechanism to prevent the undeserving from making babies?

Well,we can offer them Tough Love! That’s the ticket! And it costs us nothing! Well, a little something, an insignificant speck, a trivial little thing we won’t even notice when its gone…

Ding, ding, ding! But research suggests that it may not be completely his doing. He may have been at a genetic disadvantage. Or maybe it was a lack of friends.

Jaime E. Settle, Christopher T. Dawes, Peter K. Hatemi, Nicholas A. Christakis, James H. Fowler (2010). Friendships Moderate an Association Between a Dopamine Gene Variant and Political Ideology. The Journal of Politics, Vol. 72, No. 4, 1189–1198.

Bricker’s logic:

Why do you not support the right of people to own guns if they so wish?
Because: (insert anecdote about a mass-murder committed with a gun).

Why do you not support the right of people to drive automobiles if they so wish?
Because: (insert anecdote about a horrific chain-reaction crash caused by a careless driver.)

Need I go on?

You’re an asshole who lies about liberals and defends rapists and murderers.

I retired medically from the US Army after nineteen years in, due to injuries suffered in Iraq. I speak two other languages and have served in the former Soviet Union, the Ukraine, various areas in the Middle East and Southeast Asia, Europe, and Cuba. Before joining the military, I was a ballet dancer and had to quit due to a badly fractured ankle.

Obviously those things are not important to you because if you’re not a model, a CEO, or whatever it doesn’t matter to you. No wonder you’re a Republican.

Complaining about alleged anti-conservative bias here doesn’t seem to be working out for you. Maybe you ought to try Dad’s advice, and start offering better arguments.

You keep asserting things about “the liberal mind.” Here’s a request - stop it. You don’t have a “liberal mind” and by evidence of your assertions here you’ve drawn incredibly simplistic conclusions regarding what “the liberal mind” can understand and how “the liberal mind” operates. (For instance, you may have heard of a theory of capital commonly assumed to be given much credence by leftists and liberals over the past hundred and fifty years or so. Caused some stir in Asia and Europe over that period of time, I understand. Has to do with the creation of wealth through labor, somewhat tangentially related to the OP, wouldn’t you say?)

Even if you lack the capacity to consider other ideas without adopting them, you should at least understand that exhibiting that lack hardly makes you persuasive to those who are still (somehow) inclined to engage you in discussion.

Now, is it your position that since you earned your scholarship through academic merit it was not a form of outside aid, or that your ability to show such merit somehow created the reality of that scholarship’s existence?

Is it your contention that all forms of educational aid awarded on the basis of the financial means or defined legal class of the student are acting in some way to hold those students (or others of their defined legal class) in the conditions which the aid is designed to ameliorate? Or that forms of aid awarded without regard to needs do not act in the same way? If so, can you describe how the specific criteria used to select recipients for these gifts of money creates those different effects within each class of recipients?

Or do you just mean to imply without explicitly stating that those who aren’t bright enough, ambitious enough and hard enough working to gain merit-based advancement to the degree you’ve achieved are lesser beings? Your charming and persuasive exchanges with margin seem to point in that direction.

And resorting to caricatures just makes lose any respect I would have for you.

Hard work also made my family go to higher levels in this country after living in poverty for several years.

What I see here is a complete disbelief that many liberals also work hard, but that they are also not blinded to injustice, like guys like you are.

Your dad who came here with nothing. Did he pay enough in taxes to account for the cost of your and your brother’s K-12 education?

You made the claim earlier you grew up below the poverty line.

That being the case others subsidized your education.

Fuckin liberals…

Would the US allow someone like your dad, with nothing but the shirt on his back, to legally immigrate to the US today?

Liberals are such assholes for allowing a system that let your dad in. The bastards. Lucky we have conservatives out there putting a stop to this travesty.

You have zero basis for this assertion. It is typical knee-jerk conservative pablum.

In April of 2000 unemployment was at 3.8%. It can barely get lower (there is no such thing as a 0% unemployment rate).

I guess that 3.8% were lazy liberals and the people working were the other 96.2% that are conservatives. :rolleyes:

Well if you couldn’t tell I didn’t mean it as an insult. I’m not particularly bright but just reading his posts it seemed to me that he was an older somewhat wealthy white dude.