Wisconsin GOP passes union-stripping bill

Let’s not forget, public universities are subsidized by the government. Earn the money yourself and pay tuition at a private school and I’ll say you’re self made.

Amazing how many people suddenly turned lazy when the Wall Street speculative bubbled burst. :rolleyes:

Bullshit. They didn’t ask for, nor did we have to provide, financial information.

This is exactly what I’m talking about. Cover your ears! It can’t be true, what he’s saying! Think, think…think of something to refute it.

Got it! Academic scholarships still have a need component! They just don’t say so!

“Um… we didn’t provide financial info… how would they know?”

Never mind! Never mind that, now! It must have been need! You hear me? It MUST HAVE BEEN NEEEEEEED!!!

It’s not one anecdote. It’s evident from the behavior of unions as whole.

Your guno-owning example fails precisely because when you generalize to the world of legal gun owners, you find less crime than the average citizen. not more. When you generalize to union contracts, you find an across-the-board inability to fire poor teachers and an across-the-board resistance to merit pay.

It’s not one anecdote, pithy as it might be. Unions resist measures that reward comptence, and unions push measures that reward seniority and mediocrity. This is why liberals love them – they eschew individual achievement in favor of the herd mentality.

Well. OK, why didn’t you refuse?

Several Cuban-Americans fit this, and in my former neck of the woods, there are many white Hispanics, that thanks to prejudice they do get better deals than the mestizos (mixed race are the majority) or the Indians.

If Bicker was still in the old country he would most likely be with the elitists at the right wing ARENA party.

Nice assertions. I suspect, like many of your contributions (Georgia code, I’m looking at you) that you’re pulling them out of your ass, and that veneer on them is not actually one from expertise, but from this morning’s breakfast. Or, to put it more succinctly, cite?

Further, thanks for showing your true colors. It’s been annoying to have people refer to you as an example of an intelligent, thoughtful conservative. I’ll bookmark this thread as a handy reference, should that assertion ever show up again.

I’ll stop it when I see others stop making similarly broad swipes against conservative thought. Are my examples wrong? Of course they are. There’s no “all liberals,” and what I’m painting is a highly caricatured version of what the liberal philosphy is.

Much like what’s done on this board every day to conservatives.

Sucks to be on the receiving end, does it?

It was a form of outside aid.

Yes, but not in this thread.

If I had to make a list of lesser beings, I surely would put margin at the head of it. There’s a dung beetle vying for first place, but since it actually serves an ecological function, no such luck.

He is. Unfortunately, this is as good as it gets.

I kind of figured this was some kind of attempted gotcha ya. Unfortunately, it’s like many conservative efforts - completely divorced from reality. My assertions regarding personality and conservativism, on the other hand, are informed by empirical evidence. What’ve yuns got? A boatload of fail, I’m sure.

“Liberals don’t believe in hard work,” says the guy posting 20 times a day from work. I can only hope I can someday latch onto that sort of Conservative work ethic.

Yes, because the leftists were so great for our people, weren’t they? Viva la Frente Farabundo Martí para la Liberación, verdad??

Asked and answered, dickwad.

No, actually those do matter. Quite a lot.

Sorry about the crack about your employment. I’m proud of my job, but I can’t say it was as important as yours. I apologize.

Never mind. I see that dear old Dad’s words fell on deaf ears.

I suppose it’s Dad’s fault for wasting his breath suggesting that you “be better”. Peals, swine…

As they won the last elections and are showing that most of the demonizing was a lie, yes, it is verdad.

I’m going to step away from this thread. I’m let myself get into a state of spitting anger, rudeness, and vile behavior.

margin, you and I disagree on many things, and undoubtedly will continue to do so. But it was boorish, rude, and beyond the pale for me to impugn your employment, especially given your service in the armed forces and reasons for leaving same. That was shameful on my part, and you have no reason to accept this apology, but I offer it anyway.

Out of curiosity, what if he were an accountant, firefighter, teacher, librarian, and so on and so forth? What if he had remained a ballet dancer? Would your impugn-ment have not required any apology?

Bad form.

Or perhaps, through personal experience of going through the process as someone coming from a “poor” family (we qualified for food stamps based on my father’s military salary but didn’t apply for them), it’s SOP going through the financial aid office to see what, if anything you qualify for, that financially challenged applicants get some sort of aid.

Work-study jobs, subsidized loans, and Pell Grants were common when the applicant had limited means. Oh sure, there were a couple of academic or test based scholarships too as part of the package.

In my experience, individuals were on the rare side that came from “poor” families and didn’t get anything.

Yours is a rare case if you didn’t get anything and you suggesting that it’s liberal ideology that makes people wonder about your circumstances just shows a lack of information about the process.