Wisconsin GOP passes union-stripping bill

Okay I’ll play along. As stated with cotton candy specifically, no. However I would not be opposed to the child’s guardian using government food assistance for a special out of the ordinary treat, say birthday cake and ice cream. Stuff like that is part of a normal childhood.

Okay I answered your question, and then some.

Now please address this:

Further please explain why you feel your cotton candy question was relevant, or state you’re just being random.

Thank you. One more yes or no question (this is the second of three, so we’re almost done): if some individual or group (not affiliated with or funded by the government) wanted to give every kid free cotton candy on their birthday, would you be OK with that?

He answered your question; I think it’s only fair that you answer his.

If you have three questions to ask, just ask them. You’re not smart enough to play Socrates.

If the third question is, “what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow,” I’m leaving.

Rand Rover: “A duck!”

It’s about 31 percent and dropping. Of course, to be fair you would only consider the unionized-to-unionized here, apples to apples. I’m guessing after all that there are some Wisconsin government employees who aren’t unionized. I haven’t found the exact number but Eugene “I see white people” Robinson says, nationwide, about 42% of state and local workers are unionized, which seems in the same ballpark, I hope you agree.

I’m not sure how you go from restricting collective bargaining among public sector workers, where a clear organizational conflict of interest exists, to this. But I’m sure there’s some lefty doctrine that proves it.

I’m saying that there’s a cost involved to building and operating a federal infrastructure that ‘checks’ (oh, were that it were only that) on ‘fraudulent’ companies (I guess we’ll only check the fraudulent ones… which ones were those, exactly? :wink: )

Anyone who doesn’t think that an onerous regulatory environment doesn’t exact a pound of flesh from an economy is pretty naive about how business works. And it’s not just the salaries and equipment and benefits etc of the feds - there’s the cost of compliance by private industry, which serves to raise prices, makes US less competitive globally, etc etc etc.

This is not an argument for a wild west - it’s simply that bigger doesn’t always equal better, when it comes to regulatory infrastructure.

Did you read my post? Go back and re-read it.

Now then. I said that natural monopolies, because of the lack of competition, may actually require federal regulation.

As for monopolies lasting forever, can you name one industry now that affects you that has one that will likely last 20 years? 10?

Can’t tell until the fraud is exposed and they’ve already ‘gotten away with it’, so to speak, so what we’ll do is lay down some rules, or ‘regulations’, and expect the companies to follow them. If they don’t, there’s a good chance something fishy is up.

Gosh, it’s almost crazy enough to work.

Such a perception of a conflict of interest can only occur in a febrile mind.

Nor can the editing (albeit skillful editing) of Snowboarder Bo’s comment on Walker’s opinion piece to make it appear that the former was only referring to unions and not to the giveaway of power plants and so on.

Why are you moving the goal posts by talking about state and local government employees?

The claim was specifically

which, given that according to your own cite the vast majority of federal employees are not unionized, is a meaningless factoid. Here, let me re-phrase it for you:

I’m not sure why you try and move the goal posts, except to try and deflect the fact that the assertions you backed are bullshit, but I’m sure there’s some righty doctrine that approves of it.

OK Snowboarder, read this, then get back to me.

The link.

Seems as though what Walker said was completely true.

Well, my point was, this was supposed to be a thread about the union bill Walker forced through. It gets tiring to see the lefties here follow their gameplan of changing the subject after their point is hammered down. (Plan C, by the way, is to start the namecalling). Since the title of the thread really doesn’t have much to do with power plants et al, I was hoping to keep Mr Short Attention Span Theatre on topic.

Probably because it happens so often, would be my guess. :confused:

They really hate it when you follow their lead and hammer that one down, too. :wink:

You don’t get it, do you? You keep moving the goalposts and changing the terms of the question to suit your needs.

What percentage of federal employees who are a part of a collective bargaining unit don’t enjoy the right to bargain collectively?

That’s what happened/is happening in Wisconsin: members of a collective bargaining unit (hereafter referred to as a “union”) are now being denied the right to bargain collectively.

FFS, you’re own cite there shows that a) federal workers do, by and large, enjoy collective bargaining for the things that are now being denied in Wisconsin and b) the process would be simpler and more equitable if federal workers could bargain for their wages.

Thanks for helping me show that collective bargaining works.

I love how you decry lefties for “namecalling” and in the very next sentence call me a name. :rolleyes:

You’re just pissed because your point was totally hammered down by his luminous intelligence and incisive wit.

No, you don’t get it. What Walker said was completely correct. Others on this board have suggested otherwise.

Seems as though you are trying to move the goal posts, trying to argue against something that Walker never posited. I’m pointing out that you are wrong.

Upthread you say

If you’re an adult, time for you to retract that. I’m not holding my breath, though… no offense.

As for your last question, I’ve done a lot of research already and posted cites.

Your turn?

I have no reason to retract my opinion of Gov. Walker’s opinions. I wish you would hold your breath until I do, tho.

Your research, AFAICT, is to continue to post links to Gov. Walker’s opinions.

Good for you, kid. It takes a wise man to continue to spout nonsense, in the face of proof otherwise.

For others here who are interested in being enlightened, here’s just one quote from Walker’s piece:

I’ve proven that it’s true, using links to left-wing sources.

Einstein here feels this disagrees with his political stance, therefore he says it’s an opinion. Unless you actually have some fact and data, Snow, I’d say we’re done.

PS Bush lied, people died, no blood for oil, etc. etc.