Well, that’s a better description than “irresponsible accusatory bullshit,” I grant. And at only four syllables instead of twelve, it’s cheaper too, if one assumes there’s a per-syllable charge for such things.
But see: when called on hyperbole, the sane and responsible poster will admit, “OK, that was hyperbole. But my ACTUAL point remains: …”
Much as you have done. You’ve identified the actual point: that there is a movement among the right-wing to eliminate unions or remove their bargaining rights.
We could argue that point, except that I concede its truth, so the argument would be short.
Y’know, condescension of this magnitude would seem more convincing were it coming from someone other than a willing ally to superslug, the Messiah and Unca Thomas.
The fact is, margin made no argument resembling the one you manufactured for him. The fact is other posters here with “savvy and wit” infer the same argument I did. Whatever your perceptions of any specific interlocutor, your arguments must rest on actual evidence. You’ve offered no such evidence in support of your interpretation of margin’s claim.
So what’s the incentive now to become a state worker in Wisconsin?
As far back as I remember there was always a trade off when taking a government job. Sure the pay may be sub-par compared to the private sector and opportunities for advancement are leaner and slower but the trade-off was always the benefits of job security, pensions, etc.
You strip those away and suddenly why in the world would anybody want to work for the state?
Wisconsin thinks it has problems now wait till this completely strips them of any talented work pool they had. Good luck with prospective employees they’re going to attract.
Sure I did: margin’s reference to the Triangle disaster, combined with his refusal – even now, in light of the subsequent discussion – to admit that was hyperbole. I’ll believe that wasn’t his intent if he comes along and says, “Yeah, that was hyperbole.”
But he won’t, because he’s too incompetent to look up ‘hyperbole’ and sound out all the big words in the definition.
Actually, since we’re being righteously superior, no it wasn’t hyperbole. margin didn’t say “The GOP wants to burn workers to death”, he claimed that they want to return us to the “good old days” of no unions and no labor protections. That he gives the Triangle fire as a likely consequence of a return to those conditions is not even marginally (heh) hyperbolic. More of a “no shit” expectation based on historical data.
It’s not an act. He is a douchebag, not the least of which is because he knows I’m a woman, and I’ve called him out repeatedly for his sexist dogwhistles. I’m not sure if he’s so distracted by the fumes from his own bullshit or what, but he’s skipped the usual sexism.
The way he lies about what I said is proof. The fact that he bloviates on and ON and motherfucking ON is just a cherry on top. Bricker hopes that if he uses enough words, people will forget who he sides what, what he’s defending----union-busting, lying, conservative human rights violations, etc., etc.,----and focus instead on picking part his pretentious bullshit. It’s a constant. He’ll follow this up with charges of hysteria, mental illness, various insults, more bloviating, more long-winded lectures while he faps away, and so on.
So let’s be clear: you’re actually claiming that the likely result of the current legislation is a return to working conditions that resulted in the Triangle fire?
OK, question: by what convoluted path does OSHA vanish? Does Harry Potter Apport in and shout “Expelliamos!” at them?
Your side of idiots just refused to back down from the claim that the “likely result” of this legislation is a return to the days of no workplace safety rules. It’s a “no shit,” certainty.
If this were just margin, I’d be bemused and casually dismissive; margin requiring no serious thought. But xenophon41 surprises me.
Of what relevance is your gender? I assumed your stupidity came from your lack of wit – I doubt your ovaries have anything to do with it, although if you think they do, go ahead and make the case; perhaps I’ll become convinced that your lack of a Y chromosome earns you a pass, although I doubt it.
Jesus Bricker! I was hoping that you could be a good influence on the recent influx of mouth-breathing morons/socks and trolls from some unmoderated board, but I see now I was mistaken. They’re teaching you to be an illogical asshole.
It’s like when your kid goes to play with some potty-mouthed tots from down the block. One hopes that your child will be a good influence on them. But nooooo. He comes home and says “What’s for fucking dinner?”
You know, you keep saying there are laws on the books and recent history is already showing that all you have to do to nullify that regulation is defund enforcement and shout “regulation strips jobs”.
That’s how OSHA vanishes.
I’ve never been in a trade shop where OSHA issues didn’t take a back seat to getting the job done. And I’ve been in dozens. In one shop, the account had a fire with major smoke damage throughout the building because like most, their waste cans weren’t kept OSHA-compliant.
If the laws and regulations aren’t enforced, they’re moot.
Bricker, why is it that you always have to pick times proximate to my posting to defend or excuse you in some other thread to turn into “Supersnotty Right-Wing Condescender”?
Look, argue intelligently with me and I always return the courtesy.
margin is a useless waste of oxygen. I refuse to pretend that any of her foolish little turds dropped into the thread here and there like a diarrheatic pigeon can be mistaken for actual argument. If she miraculously manages to say something useful, I’ll address it.
Again: if someone has an actual point to make, I’ll address it. So far, other people have, and I have responded to them with rebuttal.
margin – crimmney, even you must admit that margin is a useless twittering fool, programmed like a monkey to respond with whatever vacuous phrases she;s read recently, as long as they don’t exceed her syllable count (four for dumb repetition; one for actual understanding).
Ask yourself, honestly: if margin were adopting the same level of (heh heh heh) intelligence, but advancing a right wing viewpoint, how quickly would you and a dozen others tear her to shreds? You tolerate her foolishness because she’s spouting the company line.
And it’s your contention, is it, that the fact that OSHA will vanish by this method is so certain, so utterly beyond the realm of debate that it’s fairly described as a “…‘no shit’ expectation based on historical data?”
No, I’m telling you that if OSHA is poorly enforced now, it will be even more poorly enforced in a climate where it is defunded and/or the regulatory resources are directed elsewhere.
The law can only protect if it is enforced. Defunding is the new method for nullifying regulatory laws on the books.