Maybe it’s time to start rethinking your position vis a vis Rummy’s competence.
Interesting Teddy Roosevelt quotes.
The one about the noble sweaty man in the arena and his critics dates from a time when he had recently finished his presidency (and a Republican, Taft, had succeeded him). Nixon used to love that quote. The statement about being free to criticize the President was made in 1918, during the presidency of a Democrat he despised (Wilson).
Here’s more T.R.: “.” I did not usurp power," he wrote, “but I did greatly broaden the use of executive power.”
Huh.
It’s a classic mistake made by fervent opponents of U.S. government policy to talk about how ashamed they are of being Americans, reject patriotism and turn away from or burn the flag.
Most of your countrymen are disgusted with fair-weather Americans, and the causes you espouse are tarred by such attitudes. You should be embracing symbols of patriotism and wrapping yourself in the flag. The people who opposed this war have a greater right to take pride in and display the flag* than those in the Administration who propelled us into this situation.
The bars to becoming a citizen of another country are not as troublesome as you might think. You could become a Swede or a Belgian. Those nations have few wide-reaching decisions to make. You’d have little to apologize for to the rest of the world.
*not to mention those who voted for a third party.
“Don’t hate us because we’re American, just hate our president.” -NOFX-
For the record, I’m not American either. But a good friend of mine has a sister and a brother in law that are very close to going over to Iraq & helping out. It’s too bad that you don’t support Bush, but a democracy takes the majority of votes…not everyone’s opinon.
So what you are saying is that you are not a lesbian.
c’mon, people, how could you devs missed this one?
FTR and FWIW, I think our president is an idiot ( but I think all higher up politicians are) and Ashcroft just scares the living shit out of me.
But I love my country and the freedom I have to learn, speak, and be whatever I want.
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That’s him.
Ah, yes, A Splendid Little War. :rolleyes:
Is this some joke involving Flutie and the Patriots team? Why don’t you just tell me what’s going on and get it over with?
Are you the one who actually believes that the operation in Iraq has anything to do with “Iraqui freedom?” Bush has tried to sell this war as a pre-emptive strike to protect Americans here at home from that awful evil-doer Sadam. This in spite of the fact that, even if he has the much touted WMDs (something still not demonstrated–he hasn’t used them yet), Sadam has no way to reach America. When some people expressed doubts that America was in any actual danger from the Iraqui madman, Bush switched to “Sadam supports terrorism, and is in league with Bin Laden.” No solid evidence of this claim has been adduced to this point. So now our troops are in harms way for Iraqui Freedom? Every time the news media use that term it sets my teeth on edge. Our young men and women are over there fighting and dying for George W. Bush’s ego and his taste for revenge.
Just who are you saying is not willing to put his life on the line for American Freedom? Anyone who disagrees with you?
Well, for one thing, Bush and his sympathizers have been haranguing us that to disagree with Bush policy was to be un-American. Bush himself said early on that dissenters did not have America’s best interest at heart. It couldn’t have been any plainer than that.
…ummmm, I know this is the pit, but how 'bout a cite for this:
I’ve heard a lot about this, and actually they hint around, but never actually say " to disagree with Bush policy was to be un-American."
Not having America’s best interests at heart ! = un-American.
At least not in my opinion.
This was some time ago. I don’t have a cite. Bush stated that members of Congress who didn’t see things his way didn’t have America’s best interest at heart. It was a scripted speech, and the intent of words was clear, “disagree with me and you’re unpatriotic.” Unpatriotic=un-American was the inference I drew from his statement. However, YMMV.
I consider myself patriotic, in the sense that I love my country as I love my family. But I have the capacity to feel shame for my "loved ones’ " misdeeds.
Our military are doing their duty, and I support them. But I can’t support the man who’s calling the shots. I hate that a person of Bush’s mediocre mental endowments is in the White House in the first place, and that his immense blunder is being committed at the sacrifice of American lives.
My only loyalties is to God and my wife, and any children we may have. I don’t worship flags, nations or identities.
Americans are killing innocent people in the name of oil and Zionism, pure and simple. Americans are losing their rights everyday. I am someone from the US, but live somewhere else (my citizenship is Earth) and I see all the turmoil.
Apple Pie, baseball, and murder. “Proud to be an American!”
Because that’s the whole thing. You got it. Flutie started with the Patriots and kind of sucked as a rookie.
Jus kinda takes all th’ punch outa it, if’n ya haf ta 'splain it. 
I know this is the Pit, but would you care to provide a cite for any of the above nonsense?
For example, that Americans are killing innocent people?
In the name of oil and Zionism? (You don’t have an agenda much, do you? :rolleyes: ).
Americans are losing their rights everyday? Name one right Americans have lost since 2001, with proof, not wild conjectures.
Is it just me, or does this part sound like the tagline to some Seventies TV/P.I. mystery series or movie?
Ahem. Doug Flutie spent only 2+ seasons as a Patriot, and not his first. He signed with the USFL’s New Jersey Generals out of Boston College, joined the Chicago Bears (who held his NFL draft rights) when the USFL folded in 1986, did nothing there, got waived and signed with the Pats late in the 1988 season, spent 2 years essentially just handing off to Leonard Russell, and got cut. After 9 years as the greatest player in Canadian Football League history, with BC, Calgary, and Toronto, he signed with Buffalo for 3 years, and the last 2 in San Diego, where he’s apparently going to finish up without having accomplished anything of significance in the NFL. He’s beloved in New England, though.
If you’re going to make lame jokes, better get your facts straight.
We now leave you with a joke the Pats then-owner, Victor Kiam, made (and had to apologize for) about a flap involving a female reporter in their locker room, not long after GW1: “Why is (her name) like Saddam Hussein? They’ve both seen Patriot missiles up close.”
Oh yeah, the OP. It’s a democracy. We the People hire the politicians to handle the day-to-day stuff and the organizing. We’re not their subjects; we’re their employers. They owe their loyalty to us, and, if they don’t give it, we have to fire them. The people cannot be unpatriotic; we are the country.
ZIONISM?
Oh, good God. Why are you so damn insistent on pushing your agenda? In every single post I’ve seen from you you mention it in some way, shape, or form. It’s getting ANNOYING.
Yeah! After all * everybody * knows that the Illuiminati are really behind it.