He wasn’t commenting on her personal relationship, he was citing a statistical study about people with her condition in order to inform her about potential ramifications of her unhealthy choices.
Smokers already know smoking is bad for them. That doesn’t mean a doctor does not have an obligation to tell them about the risks anyway. Giving information that they are ethically obliged to give is not “hectoring.” A lot of fat people are in denial about their health and need their doctors to be frank with them.
What does that have to do with a physician giving medical advice?
So what? That doesn’t answer my question. Would it be “bullshit” or inappropriate for a doctor to tell an alcoholic patient that his drinking could jeopardize his personal relationships?
That’s the patient’s fault, not the doctor’s. The doctor still has a duty to provide truthful information. It’s not his job to humor a patient’s inability to see her own health problems. Talk about avoiding the elephant in the room (so to speak).
This is a ridiculous assertion? Are you seriously suggesting that physicians should be sued if their patients refuse to follow their advice?
I move that we remove smoking and other addictions from this discussion. You put someone on a deserted island with no cigarettes, he actually gets healthier. You put someone on a deserted island with no food, they die. Two completely different things.
I agree with Ostritch. So he may not be using the most delicate language, but I don’t think he needs to. Plain and simple, we have a whole lot of Burger King eating American fatties, chain-stuffing their faces full of doughnuts and hoagies all day, never exercising (or doing 1 sit up and saying, THERE! I’ve done it!) and whining about their weight. Excuses! Drink more water, cut out your daily calorie intake, jog two miles a day, you will not be a lardo. Period.
Kyla, I do NOT know people who can eat all they want and never gain a pound. I ate fast food a couple of days ago, but come to think of it, that’s really all I ate that day, and I do not eat fatty foods everyday. Burger, fries, soda, not 30 burgers and mega super-sized ultra fries. That single meal adds up to, what, 2000 calories? That’s about how much I should be eating in a day, right? I don’t know anyone anywhere who sits down all day, who drinks soda nonstop, consuming in the neighborhood of 5000 daily calories who manages to stay thin. No one.
Hmmm. I’m 5’7" and at my highest weight of 215, I was wearing size 22/24 jeans or a 2X (comfortable fit). People have been surprised when I tell them what I weigh, perhaps because I’m tall and don’t dress to accentuate my flaws. (I also don’t live on donuts and Big Macs, contrary to popular stereotype [coughOJcough]. I drink water almost exclusively, and eat very little meat or junk food and lots of fruit and veggies and whole grains.)
There seems to be a tendency to overestimate a fat person’s (woman’s?) weight, maybe because the big numbers “sound better” or more in line with what a fat person is expected to weigh. I once read a story about a “big fat woman” who mugged a pizza guy and made off with the pizza – she was described as weighing “at least 200 pounds!!” and the rest of the story made it clear that she was OMG HUGE. Excuse me, but while I’m not thin by any means, I’m quite sure that no one looks at me (now right around 200 and falling, thanks to the gym and better eating habits) and says “OMG what a giant huge fat mound of blubber!!”
I totally agree, that is why I put my former build in there as comparison. My mom, sister and I are built alot the same…must be genetics. I don’t look much different now that I did 60 pounds heavier (I’ve lost about 3.5" at the waist), but I looked much lighter at 200# than she does at her current weight, as did my sister (I don’t know what my sister’s max weight was, or what she currently weighs, but there was noticable difference between my sister’s size at her heaviest and my mom’s size). Except for the face and hands, neither my sister nor I changed remarkably in body shape. But even if she does weigh 200, not 250 or 300, her weight is the problem, not the high blood pressure, cholesterol, etc. 200 pounds is still at least 35 pounds overweight for her height. And she is getting bigger, not smaller.
No shit, Sherlock. I SAID I’m not thin, and I SAID I’m losing. I’m aiming for 150, which is within a normal BMI range.
What exactly did you hope to accomplish by your asinine remark?
Anyway . . . it just occurred to me to add, even though I’ve lost only 15 pounds, I’ve had people (who had no idea I was trying to lose) tell me I look thinner, even though I’ve lost only a few inches overall and am still wearing mostly the same clothes. Mr. S says it’s because there’s a noticeable difference in my face (which I don’t see, but that’s probably just my perception). Perhaps that has something to do with the overestimation; do we perceive someone as being “fatter” if they have a double chin or pudgy hands, rather than carrying the extra weight only under their clothes?
By cutting off a leg? She (I assume, or cross dresser, perhaps) already told you that she is eating right and going to the gym. This is the difference between being honest and being mean. You can’t lose 50 pounds stat and be healthy. You and jeprah should go start an insult thread elsewhere and take Brynda with you.
I think so, I tend to notice people’s eyes, smiles, and hands. These features all tend to show fat really well. Fat faces also tend to mask emotive responses so people don’t necessarily see that you are content or wistful or some of the other more subtle emotions.
BTW, congrats on the weight loss. If Mr. S says you look good, and you feel good (and if you don’t, you probably will soon), then who cares what message board morons say. I know that my weight loss really started to sink in when I was doing things like walking more/faster/longer than I could before without being tired or sore.
I was thinking (I’m hypothesizing here), could it be that people’s insulin and metabolism problems have been induced, in part, by their early and continous eating habits? What I mean is, when you raise a child on fat, is it that surprising to find his body at a later age, cravings and all, seriously messed up? I’m not saying this accounts for all fat people: I’m not even sure of the relation! It is a fairly recent “condition”, having seen that obese people were most commonly royalty back in the day (the people who had access to food and didn’t have to move a muscle). It’s my belief that as food gradually became a commodity and was, therefore, abused of (we humans are a fun bunch), some people were affected very heavily by the unnecesary intake, not to the point of changing their genes, but of passing their lifestyle to their offspring.
I got a kick out of Amber Frey when she was talking about planning to meet up with Scott Peterson and telling him as a joke that she weighed 160 pounds. I didn’t even get it at first since 160# would be a perfectly thin and healthy weight for me and quite a few people. I couldn’t believe that was her wild exaggeration of her weight !!
Amber is a teeny tiny ex stripper/ model. She probably weighs around 110 (just from the photos I’ve seen). Heck, depending on her height, she may weigh even less. 160 is probably a good 50 lbs more than she weighs*