Ha ha, see, it’s funny because it’s obvious what you’re implying and that what you’re implying is really shitty, but because it’s so obvious it’s basically impossible to say something that makes any fucking sense and doesn’t paint you as just a fucking terrible human being.
So…what’s the problem with the neighbor just knocking on her door and asking politely for her to turn it down? Why rush to calling the cops?
I’ve had to ask folks to be quiet twice since I moved to my current apt complex in January (two different neighbors, it’s a large complex). One was someone one level lower playing some instrument I wasn’t familiar with at 1am with the window open; the other was the dude in the next apt over (whose bedroom walls adjoin mine) practicing the guitar at 11pm. Both were apologetic and I haven’t had a recurrence with either.
WiFi earphones? I use Bluetooth headphones, they work great. But I also live out in the country where I can play my music as loud as I want. And I’m white. As nervous as PoPo make me feel, I cannot imagine interacting with them while black.
Ek-fucking-zactly. Also it irritates me that you can do an infix in exactly without misspelling it, but you don’t see me calling the cops about it, do you?
You see someone actively committing a violent crime, or actively and unambiguously breaking into a house, okay, call the cops. You see someone injured, or hear a sound that could very well be a sign of violence, call.
Someone playing their music too loud? Man, fuck off with that cop-calling bullshit, unless you’ve asked them nicely to turn the music down and they’ve refused.
Yeah…the cop’s actions may or may not have been racist, but IMO the people who just jumped to calling the cops instead of being, you know, neighborly, were being pretty racist.
Eh, we don’t even know if they knew the race of the person playing the music. I’ve lived in apartments where I sort of knew the people next to me and that was it. If someone was blowing up music three doors down or below me, I’d have had no idea what race they were.
She said it was hip-hop - doesn’t mean the person playing it was black, but that’d be the balance of probability and the immediate assumption of most people.
I didn’t note if the article mentioned if she’s in an apartment building or a house? Because it does make a difference in how well one might know one’s neighbors, as well as how loud music can be before disturbing the locals.
This really is a strange board. Hard to get a read on what the posters will react to.
A few months ago, in this thread, a poster was concerned that someone in a new suburban development had a swimming pool that didn’t have a fence, and wanted to know who he needed to contact, perhaps the police? When, in over 20 replies, I suggested that he could contact the owner directly to find out about the fence, not only did NOBODY agree that talking to your neighbor will often yield better results than talking to the authorities, but several posters opined that confronting a someone over such an issue was dangerous and foolhardy.
In particular,
Which was followed by,
Now, I expect a boatload of dopers to respond with, “That’s not the same thing! Some kid could drown if there isn’t a fence.” That is exactly my point. The fastest and most efficient way to correct the situation is to talk to them directly, whether it is loud music or a fence around a pool. But, talking to someone in a quiet, suburban neighborhood is (apparently) much more dangerous than confronting someone in an apartment building?
I have not read the article, but apparently the woman in question is either a doctor or studying to become one. As quick as she is to jump to conclusions about racism, how do you think she might treat a patient whose skin is not the proper shade of brown? Or a patient, perhaps, she feels (rightly or wrongly) that harbors racist beliefs (or, even beliefs that aren’t specifically racist, but ones that she personally disagrees with)?
A few years back I was running a register. As one of the customers walked away, she said to the owner “I love your store, but it’s too bad your employees are racist”. A few seconds of back and forth between her and the owner and it turns out she decided I was racist because I didn’t say “hi” to her as she approached the register, but I did for the [white] customer right before her.
As I said earlier, if you go looking for racism, you’re going to find it. And if you throw the term around that loosely, it’s really going to lose it’s impact.
A lot of people aren’t all that confrontational. Besides, if you ask someone to quiet down and later the police or landlord shows up, regardless of who called them, they’re going to assume it’s you. Neighbor wars get really ugly, really fast. IME, it’s easier just to go directly to management or police. Especially when we’re they’re loud enough that most people would know that it’s not being contained in the apartment. (ie loud music vs walking too hard)
Well, if the police were called because she was black, sure. But they were called because the music was too loud. I think you might have a different definition of racist than I do.
The title of the article is “I’m a black doctor. My neighbors called the cops on me for listening to Biggie”. The URL contains the phrase “my-white-neighbors-called-the-cops-on-me-for-listening-to-hip-hop”
Also from the article “I started singing and dancing around the apartment” and (also quoted in the OP) “I felt bullied in my own apartment”
Maybe she doesn’t have any black people in the building.
It would be very weird (in my experience) for the police to explicitly say who made the noise complaint so, unless her neighbors came by later and said “Haha, we called the police on you because we hate Biggie!”, I’m guessing there’s a bit of assumption going on in the author’s mind.
Huh? You said we don’t know the race of the people playing the music and I replied that we do know. It’s, at least in part, the point of the article.
Perhaps that depends on department policy. I once called the police over loud music from another house 4 or 5 times during the course of a summer. At some point I ended up talking to the police chief about it and asking him why nothing was be done about it. His reply was that I was making the reports anonymously and because of that the officers have to hear it for themselves otherwise all they can do is advise the homeowners that people are calling in about it. He went on to say that if I didn’t make the report anonymously, they’d ask me to meet them there when they respond. With an actual statement from the person reporting, they have a lot more leverage to encourage them be quieter.
Besides, plenty of times the police will say ‘you’re downstairs neighbor’ or ‘the people across the street’ when responding to this.
On top of all that, if you don’t make the complaint anonymous, you’ll be named in the police report that anyone or their mother can get from the police station.
No, I said we don’t know who made the call nor do we know if the caller knew the race of the music playing person:
The column wants me to imagine that some racist white person was rubbing their hands and saying “Haha! I finally have that black doctor NOW!” when, in reality, it could have just as likely been someone saying “God damn it, some moron won’t turn their music down. I’m calling the cops”.