Is it the puppies video that’s linked to above? Or something else I’m missing?
Oh yeah, whoops.
Throwing puppies into a river, and posting it on YouTube? Either stupid, a troll, or both.
Assuming it’s real.
Regards,
Shodan
My god, no. There has to be other possibilities. Perhaps she is psychotic, and the person that is filming her is exploiting one of her pscychotic breaks and filming it and uploading it without her knowledge. Right? I know a lot of stupid people, and I can’t picture a single one of them being capable of that kind of bizarre and extreme cruelty. Something more than stupid going on here.
Or they could be on drugs, I mean there are a number of explanations.
You know a higher class of stupid than I do.
Although this was mostly a reference, not to the puppy-throwing per se, but to the notion of putting it on YouTube.
When I was in first grade, I put my initials in the fresh asphalt on my school’s playground, thus narrowing down the list of suspects rather a lot. Not exactly the perfect crime, IFSWIM. Same here.
Regards,
Shodan
Yeah. Putting your initials was pretty stupid. But I bet it was signing it, “Regards, Shodan” that really gave you away.
It would have worked - if it weren’t for you meddling kids!
Regards,
[del]Shodan[/del] Joey did it!
I shouldn’t have clicked on the video. So yeah; this girl’s got some problems… one of which is being stupid.
This is so much more disturbing to me than the bin lady. Regardless of the animal, (as some claim cat abuse gets more attention), this shit is just sick. It’s not JUST the act, but the fact that someone filmed it, really says something about those involved. Not that it matters for the poor dogs, but there’s a difference between someone quietly getting rid of a litter of puppies, and someone doing it in front of a camera.
The accusations about how much attention is given, due to the type of animal that’s being abused, reminds me of a much earlier thread. It leads to an interesting discussion about they types of animals people seem to be more emotional about getting hurt, abused, or killed. If these were baby chicks being thrown into a river, would people care as much? I admit I wouldn’t care as much, but ever since I was a part of the discussion I linked to, I’m not sure it’s any less “wrong”.
Update on the cat binner - she’s appearing in court next month to face charges.
Cat woman update:
She was found guilty of causing unnecessary suffering to a cat. Fined £250 plus costs of £1171 and banned for keeping or owning animals for 5 years. Also she’s resigned from her job and is suffering from depression.
Jesus, the consequences of small actions have certainly gone up in the age of the internet. I’m actually starting to feel some what sorry for her now. The amount of press still haranguing her weeks after the fact is a pretty depressing indictment on the state of news values. This is one of those things that should have diverted people for about three minutes before being forgotten.
Good.
I disagree. It’s important to stomp on things like this; by making an example of her, the Internet will have saved other animals from cruelty. And remember that psychopaths often start with animals, so maybe there’s a human or three who’s been saved some suffering too.
Well, i’m a bit skeptical of your reasoning here.
Is it really likely that a psychopath, a person who will start will animal cruelty and move on to humans, will be deterred by this incident? Psychopaths and sociopaths, by definition, are not especially amenable to the sort of social limits and constraints that affect normal people’s behavior.
And it’s not really her legal penalty i was talking about. I think the fine and costs, and the ban on owning animals was perfectly reasonable. It’s more the ongoing media obsession, and the death threats and other stuff she’s been subjected to by people from all over Britain and the world. If you’re concerned about psychopaths, maybe it’s worth checking out the people who issue death threats over an incident like this.
I’m not going to defend her actions. They were stupid and cruel. I’ve already spent a fair bit of energy in this thread arguing that, if you do something like this in public, then you deserve having your actions exposed and being held up to scorn and ridicule. But i also think that there’s a line beyond which the ridicule and harassment and media attention become counterproductive, and are more indicative of an obsession with scandal than with any sense of justice or appropriate punishment.
Just MHO.
I agree. The penalty is excessive. No harm was intended for the cat. No harm was inevitable. If you think so, you must campaign against those little dog kennels people use to transport their pets.
This was simply a prank that yes requires consequences, but I believe the resultant outroar provided that.
Leaving the cat untended for 15 hours (and likely could’ve been a lot longer) in a garbage bin which the cat could not exit is a prank? If you don’t mind, I don’t think I’ll be updating my dictionary anytime soon to reflect that.
I agree that it wasn’t just a prank. I’m simply arguing that the level of hostility and media attention this woman is getting is out of all proportion to her offense. I think the legal punishment she got was perfectly reasonable; it’s the extra-legal punishment that i have a problem with.
The dog kennels are designed to contain dogs, and more importantly, don’t usually contain garbage. Animals in kennels are theoretically checked on periodically, as well. This doesn’t always happen, but the owner or caretaker of the animal at least knows the animal is in the carrier. The cat’s owner had no idea where the cat was, and the woman who put it in the bin didn’t go back to check on the cat periodically, or at all, if I’m reading the articles correctly.
And I’ve moved animals across the country, and even overseas. The kennels are much more humane and much safer than allowing the animal to wander around the car or whatever sort of transportion. My usual vet is less than 10 minutes away, and I STILL put our cats in the carrier if they have to go. The cats don’t get underfoot or on top of our heads, they don’t go flying around in the car if we have to brake suddenly or have an accident, and they are just as miserable to be free roaming as they are when confined to the carrier.
I’m evil, but I laughed at that. The cat lived. It was taught that humans can be shits and take care.
This is probably borderline zombie, but since the thread has been resurrected already:
If you do, note that cats are notoriously hard to kill. I’d recommend a high-velocity, fine caliber like a .22-250 or a .223, with a “varmint” type expanding bullet.
It won’t look pretty, but it’ll be fast and effective.
Regarding the neighbors, you might also consider a silencer AKA muffler (if that’s legal in your area of residence). It won’t remove the whip-like sound of the supersonic bullet, but the muzzle noise will be significantly reduced.