Women doctors and men doctors

Why is this the case? Women don’t mind men doctors ( in most cases it seems they prefer them) but most men DO mind women doctors. A lot of women that I have talked to prefer men gynecologists. …why the hell is that? I saw a super model on Loveline the other night and she said and I quote “ohhh I perfer a male gynecologist mine tells me jokes and things.”

I mean it embarrasses the shit outa me to go to a woman doctor especially if she has to look at my privates for whatever medical reason. Ohhhh I know she has seen it all…but I wasn’t there when she saw it all! I think I would be in real trouble if I had to get up in some stirrups and let a woman doctor check me out!!

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Personally, I can’t bear the thought of going to a male gynie. I don’t understand how he could POSSIBLY understand, well, women stuff… no matter how much he’s seen or read or studied.
I feel much more comfortable talking with a woman about my health issues. She understands better what my body is going through.


Sucks to your assmar.

It’s interesting because I’ve NEVER met a woman who prefered a male Gyn. Are your aquiantences older? Perhaps they’re more comfortable with them, since they’ve seen them since they were young women (from before women were widely accepted in the medical fields) (just a theory). I’m with the previous poster – I’d prefer to get my exams from someone who knows what they feel like.

I had a male GYN when I was a teenager/ very young adult. He was awful, but of course I didn’t know any better; he’d been my mom’s doc for years, and she thought he was ok.
The last straw was when I told him at my reg. sched. apt. that the birth control I’d been using for a few years had started making me nauseous, and I wanted to try something else, and he told me, “I’ll write you another year’s worth of the same prescription; if you’re still having the same problem then, we’ll talk about trying something else.” Can you imagine?
I went right out and found myself a nice lady doctor, and have never looked back. My GP is a lady, too.

My current and previous primary care docs were both women. The previous one was a problem but only because of her front office idiots (wouddn’t FAX a referral, woudn’t make out a referral until AFTER I had made an appointment with the yet-to-be-referred specialist, would never let me see the doc without appt even under emergency conditions, etc). Current doctor is extremely helpful. Femaleness of either of them not an issue, despite some rather invasive cultures and palpations. It’s all the professionalism that counts.


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Our reproductive endrocrinologist (RI) was a man. Whenever he did an exam on my wife, he had a female nurse with him, and he was clearly explaining every little thing he did. Our WAG was that he and his partners wanted to avoid any kind of sexual lawsuits.

On top of that, when we did an interuterine insemination (IUI), they had a labeling system set up so that we were insured that my little swimmers were the ones being put in my wife.

(There was a Washington area doctor years ago that was substituting his own sperm for the father’s. Got sued big time.

One teenage girl had known she was conceived through artificial insemination. When they showed a picture of the doctor, she suddenly realized that he’d done the switch on her mother and he was her biological father.)


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My doctor is a woman. She’s been to all my “nasty bits”. No problem at all, nor any embarrassment. The situation is too professional for any sexual implications.
I like her. She’s more synpathetic than male doctors I’ve been to. I’ll be disappointed if I lose her as a doctor.
BTW, there’s never a male nurse in the exam room.
Peace,
mangeorge


Wow, 00, I made it! :slight_smile:

I had a lady doctor actually kneel in front of me to do the “turn your head and cough” thing.

Funny the number of wisecracks that come to your mind at a time like that. It’s also a good idea not to speak them out loud considering what she’s holding.

One other thing…a woman told me once that she preferred real old gynecologists…with Parkinson’s. It took me a minute…

2 things…1…I wouldn’t want a woman doctor cause what if she was like…hot? god just think of how embarassing it would be if…well I don’t need to finish.

also…what kind of guy says “yeah I wanna be a vagina doctor” without having some kind of sexual sidenote in his head?


The only thing a nonconformist hates more than a conformist is another nonconformist who does not conform to the prevailing standards of nonconformity.

As GPs go, male or female doesn’t matter to me. I’ve had great ones of both sexes and awful ones of both sexes.

As gynecologists go, I will only ever go to a woman gyn. I’m sure there are male gynecologists out there who can give a gentle pelvic exam, listen to my troubles sympathetically and nonjudgementally, and talk to me like I’m not a brain-damaged child, but I’ve yet to meet one, and after a couple of bad incidents, I refuse to take the chance again.

Every woman gynecologist I’ve been to warms the speculum, takes her time during the exam, is gentle, and actually listened to what I had to say. Oh, yeah, and they’ve got smaller hands. Big difference.

The only two female doctors I have been to were both bitches. Never went back to them. I’ve always had my pelvics and pap smears done by my (male) GP- I don’t believe in having a separate doctor for every part of my body. I told my primary care doc, if he finds something wrong, then I’ll go to an ob/gyn.
Best doctor I ever saw was a black dude. He’d been trained in Oriental medicine. He was basically a traditional M.D., but he wasn’t afraid to try alternative approaches. He even taught me how to do Korean hand accupuncture on myself for some shoulder and back pain I was having.


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MissDavis:

I’ve had similar problems with doctors. Not birth control related, but where they ignore major complaints, or tell the to take the proverbial asprin, etc. I think it’s the specific doctor, not the male/female thing, as my problems weren’t gender-related and I wasn’t treated properly (imho).

I’ve also had a lot of doctor’s trying to make money, telling me to shedule a followup when the problem is something obvious and I could call later if it persists (I know this because I go in, they check the main symptom and only that, and let me go.) or if any unexpected issues come up. And doctors who charge the $15 fee to fill out a ‘Patient had XXX on xx/yy’ even though it’s only 15 seconds of paperwork.

I can understand wanting a women for a gynecologist, but I think the issue of them treating your complaints with respect is just about them being jerks.

I “mind” essentially all doctors – and medicine to boot. I haven’t been to enough female doctors, however, to properly empirically judge them categorically against men doctors though.

Established Western medicine is putrid, in terms of established “Western” science, and its method of practice is pretty much that from a niche based on ‘you take what we give, because we’re extremely collusive and we’re it’, and otherwise your life ain’t worth $&^%&^& – directly in parallel with the legal profession. But much of this comes from what is exemplified of the public in the above posts: by in large, they don’t want objective body repair or standardization; they want TLC, particularly the female members thereof. I want sufficient objective understanding of anatomy and physiology – in terms facilitating repair, standardization or prevention of worsening of problems (and possibly, but way discounted, original prevention of problems) – usually in concordance with modern science – as such be needed to most efficiently and effectively pursue such repair, etc.; that is, give me the nuts-and-bolts approach. I don’t see an MD for sociality; and don’t really care for their brand of that, and I don’t expect them to get into my subjective makeup. However, for the most part, the above isn’t what MDs are after or are trained for. . .and the public loves to suck on all the other glop – which serves to make medicine ever more ineffective and expensive. And “alternative/complementary medicine” is pretty much all a sucker game currently demanded by those millions who teem and crave TLC. More-scientific medicine is needed; not less-scientific stuff.

Though MDs now come from a broader social base than that of sons of physicians plus others from the ranks of those having moneyed leverage on the existing medical tribe, they still are selected for desire for social standing and/or “wanting to help people” without interest in how people’s nuts and bolts fit together.

As far as gender: The males have been mostly of the extreme patriarchal, egomaniacal types, and a larger portion of the present ones still are so. From what I’ve seen of the females, I think one can accept the underlying reality that no amount of PC can hide: There is bound to be much less horn-locking with male patients and more cooperation with patients of both sexes. . .but, although, of course, segments of the sexes considerably overlap in most characteristics – when you now begin to have average professional-calibre women numerically represented in medicine – the old reality arises: males prevail in the less-personal, outer world, while females prevail in the inner subjective one; so that, while female MDs may generally improve clinical efficiency through better cooperation with the patient, they will, on average, worsen clinical efficiency as it depends on needed-to-be-increased objective modeling toward and fulfilling of objective mending. That is, women MDs will tend to be a combination of just dispensing what the book says and playing nurse, but will do this in much nicer ways. Nursing is, of course, quite valuable, and often quite crucial, but it is not a substitute for coldly reasoned “screwing of nuts onto bolts” to fasten material, inanimate or animate, together so it will work. And holding the book in the other hand while doing such won’t substitute for effective body repair, etc.

I guess this thread was supposed to be about modesty or something, but I kind of think that sort of thing gets lost in the dust of the present hopeless and still nationally unaffordable, inefficient mess that is today’s medicine.

Ray (And in the end. . .medicine only confounds evolution anyhow.)

I have a wonderful male ob/gyn back home in St. Louis that I’ve gone to since I was 17. He knows as much (or more) about female health issues as any woman doctor I’ve ever been to. He’s kind, understanding, non-judgmental, warms the equipment, and tells me everything he’s going to do and what to expect it to feel like before he does it. When my mother became ill with breast cancer, he let me come into the office just to sit and talk to him whenever I needed questions answered or just wanted to talk about it.

I recommended him to my sisters when they were old enough to start seeing an ob/gyn and they both love him as much as I do. Two of us no longer live in St. Louis, but still schedule office visits with him when we go back home, and we call him (and he returns our calls long distance) when we have questions we’re not comfortable asking any other doctor, or if we’ve seen him for tests but left town before the results came in.

I’ve seen 2 female doctors and two male doctors since I’ve been in California. I liked one of the women and didn’t care for the other one at all (she was rather brusque and “poo-pooed” my concerns). I liked both of the male doctors, but one of them was way too cute and I didn’t feel like I could be comfortable asking deeply personal questions for some reason. Not that it means anything, but I think the other male doctor was gay. I was infinitely more comfortable with him than I was with the other guy and would go back to him if he’s still at the same clinic (I think they rotate doctors there). However neither of them were as great as the doc I “grew up” with. I’m hoping if I’m ever pregnant I can plan to be back home for the birth of my baby so Dr. Becker can deliver it :slight_smile:


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When I was young, I needed a yearly physical before I went to camp. One year, my doctor started the “turn-your-head-and-cough” exam. I didn’t know what it was for, but he was so clinical about it I wasn’t freaked.

Then one year he was seriously ill and wasn’t working. A female intern was assigned to do my physical. Now I was freaked. But she didn’t do it, and I was relieved.

Looking back now, I’m rather bummed she didn’t. :wink:


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I’ve had male doctors and female doctors. Never thought twice about either of them. They’re doing a job, and frankly, the whole examination thing is so damn clinical, I couldn’t even think about anything but how clinical it all is.

That said, I could see a different gender doctor bother someone. Just doesn’t bother me.


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“I think it speaks to the duality of man sir.”
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aha,All the women I asked would prefer a woman gyno if such is available. A few would I know would go 100 miles for one if that was what they needed to do.

Funny thing, before the exam women fold their panties very discretely & privately.

aha, maybe you could go to the gyno with your wife and the gyno can show you where the g-spot is??

Handy you devil you …how do you know how the women fold their panties before an exam… :wink:


“I think it speaks to the duality of man sir.”
-Private Joker in Full Metal Jacket

I recall, when I had to have an exam, as an adolescent, before going to camp, I was even shy about having a nurse see me in briefs.

Ray