I didn’t think it would make this much of a sensation, really. If I had known it would take up so much room in this thread, I would have started another thread, but it’s too late for that now. I’m not going to PM you, sorry. You sought to shame curlcoat publicly, you should deal with the blowback publicly. As for publicly shaming, what were you trying to do to curlcoat? Is it only OK if you do the shaming? Though I must say, shaming wasn’t my agenda. Pointing out hypocrisy was my goal. You’re not helping the cause of fighting sexism if you blatantly contradict yourself, are you? Or don’t you actually care about sexism, but more about being self-righteous and kicking the shit out of people who offend you, whether it be catcalling men, or curlcoat?
Thus letting an asshole like you win. That’s not curlcoat’s style, and you know it.
I’m not attacking your person. I’m attacking the validity of your stance. Even Bosstone agreed that was not ad hominem. You can cling to that all you like, but it just ain’t so.
The idea that you oppose sexism and are in a position to lecture others about it is what’s in question here. I don’t have a problem with the idea that catcalls are sexist. What I have a problem with is a sexist calling other people sexist, or a woman giving other women shit because they don’t deal with sexism how you want them to. I can’t believe you’re incapable of recognizing your own hypocrisy here.
You’re making shit up. I don’t care if you insult curlcoat. I’ve done it myself. I find her infuriating and I understand why you were so pissed off at her, really I do. I care about the sexist way you did it when you simultaneously preach at both men and other women about sexism here. You are a hypocrite who needs to get her story straight or STFU.
I never said you were a closet misogynist. But you clearly use misogynistic speech to belittle and demean, which is sexist behavior. And if you want to call curlcoat a retard, well, that doesn’t affect you calling other people out for sexism. I’m not the fucking internet police. People insult each other here all the time and I don’t give a rat’s ass. What I care about is flagrant hypocrisy, which you have displayed in spades.
Oh for FUCK’S SAKE. Are you really this dense? If you called her a whore once, to make an actual, rhetorical point about the hypocrisy of her political stance in juxtaposition with her lifestyle, then it would have been a meaningful use of the word and not a gratuitous insult. What you did, though, was call her a whore every single time she spoke thereafter, thus draining any rhetorical merit from it and turning it into a way of dismissing her argument completely and making her feel like shit by using loaded sexist language. You hoped to shame her into silence by bludgeoning her with the word WHORE, and you enjoyed it. You admitted as much, so why the belabored denials?
If your point is that people shouldn’t be sexist, but then you turn around and are fucking sexist, then you invalidate yourself as someone who can preach to others about the evils of sexism. This isn’t rocket science.
I don’t give a shit about your intentions. What you did was use sexist language to attempt to silence another woman’s opinions because you didn’t like them or her. That’s sexist behavior, and I don’t see how you can deny it. I can’t believe we’re still even discussing this. So, if you feel free to engage in sexist behavior when it suits you, how can you feel righteous about criticizing the sexist behavior of others? You don’t know their intentions either, but you still feel quite free in labeling and judging them. When the same is done to you, you squirm, shout, and deny. Isn’t that textbook hypocrisy?
It’s off topic, eh? You think you should be able to, simultaneously in two ongoing threads, behave in a flagrantly sexist manner, and then get up on your high horse and tell other people they’re sexist, and how best to respond to sexism? You’re 20 pounds of shit in a 10 pound bag, babe. If you can feel good about how you dealt with curlcoat, and still get on your soapbox here without any cognitive dissonance, then you’ve got serious blinders on about your own behavior. What else is there to say? You demand that men examine their own prejudices and behaviors but pay no attention to your own. If you’re OK with that, then I guess there’s nothing more to say.
Seriously, feel free to start another thread about this. If you wouldn’t mind, I’d be much obliged.