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While I’m sure it felt good to get that off your chest, it pretty much does nothing at all for answering the OP’s questions.
Unless you have some explanation as to why merchandising and sales led to the choices of the lasso breaking and its effects on WW in Red Son?
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Actually it does. I was saying that asking for continuity from a publisher that has no respect for the continuity of its own stories is a pointless enterprise. If the unbreakable lasso needs to be broken, it will be broken.
[QUOTE=Miller]
Which makes it exactly like every other comic book franchise owned by either of the big two. You think Marvel gives a shit about the comic book Spiderman, when the cinematic Spiderman just pulled in over half a billion dollars pure profit on what is almost universally regarded as the worst Spiderman movie to ever hit the theaters? Comics are at best a sideline in the superhero buisness these days, and has been ever since the market collapse of the '90s.
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Most DC and Marvel characters never get a movie. I’ll spot you the irrelevance of Superman and Spidermans’ comics’ quality, but not many others. The only thing they have to attract moviemakers’ attention is their quality.
[QUOTE=Askia]
Comics are superior in some aspects of superhero storytelling. It’s cheaper to do serial storytelling in comics than in just about every other mass medium medium except webcomics and maybe some gaming programs.
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I love graphic novels. Love, love, love them. But I think this is only partially true.
While I think The Dark Knight Returns would be hacked to death if attempted in any other medium, there are times when grahic novels are not the best way to go.
Anne Rice’s novel The Tale of the Body Theif, the 4th of the Vampire Chronicles, was made into a graphic novel and did not compare well to the written book.
I think Askia meant that comics are the superior medium for superhero stories.
That’s a pretty defensible statement. It’s hard to pull off the powers and costumes of full-fledged superheroics and not look pretty damn goofy, let alone actually convincing, although animation works pretty well too. It’s also not surprising. Superheroes and comics evolved together. The genre evolved to fit the medium and aspects of the medium no doubt developed to serve that specific genre. When you turn a comic book story into a movie, you either have to abandon some defining traits of character and plot, or try to shoehorn stuff that just doesn’t work as well outside of comics.
[QUOTE=Evil Captor]
Most DC and Marvel characters never get a movie. I’ll spot you the irrelevance of Superman and Spidermans’ comics’ quality, but not many others. The only thing they have to attract moviemakers’ attention is their quality.
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Oh, yeah? Then how do you explain the Ghostrider movie?
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Actually it does. I was saying that asking for continuity from a publisher that has no respect for the continuity of its own stories is a pointless enterprise. If the unbreakable lasso needs to be broken, it will be broken.
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Red Son is explicitly outside of DC continuity. That’s the point of it being an Elseworlds. It’s an Elseworlds because DC didn’t want Elseworlds titles messing up regular DC continuity.
In other words, it’s an Elseworlds because DC had respect for the continuity of its own stories.
In the bigger picture, all of the comics publishers have changed their continuities once they’ve been publishing long enough. This is not surprising – even series of novels, and series of movies, have continuity issues. Just human nature to tinker, maybe.
It’s surely beside the point for Red Son which isn’t in Wonder Woman’s continuity, nor even is a Wonder Woman story. And, as has been cited several times in this thread, the golden lasso isn’t “unbreakable” it is only “supposedly unbreakable”, since it has been broken several times. The bit outside of WW continuity is the effect the breaking had on WW in Red Son.