Not this again!
Southerners are Southerners. They don’t care about your grammar rules. I see “y’all” singular on a regular basis.
I dunno. To me, it clearly sounds like a light “l.” I’ve posted several examples above where I don’t hear any sort of “l” whatsoever, so I’m not sure it’s the initial vowel sound (which does exist in my dialect, as we’re not part of the cot-caught merger.) I don’t hear the “l” in any of the Forvo links except the last two. I do hear it in the Almond Joy commercials you linked to, though. So it doesn’t always sound to me like it has an “l” in it. I pronounce it as /ˈɑl mənd/ with a very light “l” there that is different than if I say /ɑ mənd/. It’s not as strong as “all” + “mond”, just a very light touch of the tongue against the palate, when my mouth closes to transition from the “a” sound to the “m.”
This is just one of those things where we can’t trust our ears. Just as our brains fill in detail that our eyes don’t see we can hear or ignore sounds in our brain. In the thread about ‘jaguar’ many people have heard it pronounced like ‘jag-wire’, I’ve never noticed that pronunciation but it wouldn’t surprise if I never pick it up without concentrating on it. I think there is only a very slight difference in the way the mouth would make the sounds for ‘all-mond’ or ‘ah-mond’, so the sound itself is barely there.
^ Sorry, I didn’t mean palate, but rather the alveolar ridge.
I do agree that we’re not the best judges for that reason. Since I say it with a light “l,” I expect to hear a light “l.” But my point was also that I found a bunch of sound examples where in the vast majority I do not hear that “l,” even though I expect to hear it. So clearly I can, at least at times, distinguish it. It’s possible that all those commercials, as they had a lot of background noise, helped my brain to “fill in the sound,” whereas with the bare vocal samples, it was clear.
I say All-munds like Allman Brothers. But then again, I’ve been ridiculed for rhyming reese’s peecies.
Yeah, in any one case there could be the subtle L. I would hear it the opposite way as if it wasn’t there. There are definitely people who pronounce it clearly, but that doesn’t jar me as some mispronunciations would, it seems to work just as well either way.
And not saying it is mispronunciation since it’s acceptable now either way.
I’m also one of those people who pronounces the “l” in “folk” and “yolk.” I was, frankly, shocked to find none of the dictionaries I checked had the “l” pronunciation for “folk,” but some did have it for “yolk.” “Yolk” and “yoke” are not homophones the way I say it. Once again, it’s a very light “l,” but it’s there in my accent, or at least in my personal pronunciation. It always feels a bit weird to me when I purposefully say “foke” and “yoke,” as if I’m trying to affect an accent, even those are the standard pronunciations.
Reese’s Pieces doesn’t rhyme?
I’m assuming bobot says risiz instead of risəz and so makes pisəz into pisiz to force the rhyme, while his friends and neighbors just say risiz pisəz.
They don’t rhyme with “greasy”, which is how I hear it when I see the words. But rest assured, I’ve had my ass handed to me about that in another thread!
Well this is getting weird for me. Now as I read through the thread I’m starting to ‘hear’ the L in almond pronounced in my head as I read :). Is that happening for you with ‘yolk’ or ‘folk’?
I’m wondering if the issue with almond is people hearing the dark L and thinking it’s part of the vowel.
Nobody’s mentioned New Englander’s broad “A” yet.
New Englandaaas all talk like that.
If I sound it out, it sounds like a bag of dismembered monkey parts.
My friend from Lubbock, Texas most certainly uses “y’all” as singular.
Utah folk talk weird.
Words ending in “ing”, the “g” isn’t pronounced. Whatcha doin’?
Also sometimes the “t” is silent. There is a city called Layton. It is pronounced Lay-un.
They will say, “Oh fudge”. This is to avoid saying the word for copulation. Probably due to the Mormon influence.
That’s just standard Mercan English.
Yeah, nothing particularly Utah about that. Dropping the “g” in “ing” is common across all sorts of English dialects. It’s certainly normal around here in Chicago.
There have only been two people in my life I’ve heard pronounce the word “tour” as a two-syllable word, rhyming with “sewer.” They were both from the St. Louis area.