Workplace griping, anyone?

That’s the part that’s frustrating. My pay has nothing to do with my rating, so she has no financial reason to evaluate me lower than what I deserve. She’s pulling this move just because she can.

She also dinged me on interpersonal skills. Her reasoning? Despite the fact that I get along with everyone and am capable of motivating staff to do whatever I want them to just because they like me (yes, she actually conceded this), she doesn’t think I talk to her enough, in a way that makes her feel good.

Not that this isn’t absurd by itself, but she doesn’t have any standing to lecture anyone about interpersonal skills. She’s cost the agency thousands of dollars in wasted time and productivity as a result of her multiple disputes with staff. In this year alone, she had to have mediation on 3 seperate occasions to “resolve” conflicts between her and her reports. The division has lost two branch chiefs because they couldn’t take her tyranny. She’s been under investigation for creating a hostile workplace.

But she’s the expert in interpersonal skills? Hahahahaha!

This.

Be careful. When my husband received a totally unfounded and unfairly poor review last year we knew it was the beginning of the end. He was let go a few months later.

I have my fingers crossed for you that she is let go in the very near future. She sounds like a real piece of work.

Is it a requirement for people in sales to be brainless dickheads? I mean, seriously. Your whole job is to facilitate sales - as in, we want to give you tens of thousands of dollars in exchange for products, while we both know that you get a commission from that sale. Yet you don’t answer the phones, take ages to reply to emails, and when you reply, you don’t read what you’re replying to first. When I ask a yes/no question about whether you can provide samples, the answer shouldn’t be “do you accept the price in the quick quote I gave you, and when can I expect payment?”. Getting samples to be able to make a purchase worth thousands of $$$ shouldn’t take weeks.

And why is it none of you can spell my name, even though it’s right there in the email?

Seriously, business schools and other gatherings of pillocks make millions telling people about how to sell things such that the customer feels good about the transaction (especially if it wasn’t a transaction the customer was expecting to make). Making me feel MURDEROUS RAGE against the salesidiots I’m forced to deal with isn’t the sort of emotional response you should be aiming to generate, I should think, yet you all do.

I say all, because our own salesprick is a brainless dickhead just like the above. Never reads the emails he responds to, doesn’t do the work he’s assigned, can’t remember my name and has given up trying (it’s a common name, so it’s not like he has an excuse), is incapable of communicating in any language, and sells services we don’t offer while refusing to try to sell a service we do. Doesn’t stop him talking incessantly about how amazing he is. The guy couldn’t sell water in a crowded desert, yet he hasn’t gotten fired yet for some damn reason.

Idiots.

I’ve been working at my current temp job for a little over a year. I became very close to someone who was also a temp and who trained me. She was lucky and was hired for an unrelated position with the company and we are still very good friends. I ended up taking her old temp job. And the shitstorm she left behind has caused me no end of grief - I just spent an hour on the phone trying to figure out something from 2010 - a year BEFORE I started. And every week, something else comes up that is unacceptable - and I’m trying to fix this stuff from over a year ago and still don’t know all the relevant stuff I need to know (it’s a VERY long learning process in what I do). We’re still friends, but it’s hard to bite my tongue sometimes and not say WHAT IN THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING? Sometimes I feel like I was set up to fail. Even though my boss says I’m doing really well considering what I’m up against, I feel so damn STUPID when I don’t understand what and how the previous person screwed up and I’m supposed to fix it.

Sorry. I’m a bit down right now. Caught the latest $80,000 error just in time today. After having been working for the last ten freakin hours. I’m cranky. I maybe need a mental health day.

And what makes it worse, she’s still my bestest friend at work. I feel SO disloyal feeling mad at her. She was in the same place I am now back when she was doing this - I guess I can’t blame her - she was working then with the same handicap I am working with now. That being previous contractor’s screwing things up and we get to come in an try to fix things.

Edited to add:

Yes, Toffe - yes, it is. At least that’s been my experience having supported sales people of many different types for lo these past 28 years.

Thankfully, we only have all-staff meetings every two months. Last time, it was less than an hour long. This time, it was over two hours. Ugh.

Yes. And the worst part of it, companies value sales departments over accounting departments because the accounting departments are not revenue-generating departments (try running a successful company without one, though). Not only are the salespeople brainless dickheads, but so are the decision-making higher-ups in many companies.

Not completely. IME, people who work in sales are dickheads, people who work retail are overworked and ackey-backed, and CSRs often are a godsend. But for some reason, management too-often loves the boasting, loud, salesmorons, confuses retail workers with ants and thinks CSRs do nothing but drink tea all day (for countries where tea is the usual beverage, substitute “capuccinos”).

I have a coworker who is also on our new remote work project and he’s been a pretty vocal supporter, probably related to the location of his home being 2.5hrs from the office. This isn’t a problem.

Last week we were both assigned to work on the same project as they need 1.5 people so we arranged a meeting this morning to look over the project plan, determine how we’re going to divide the work and get started on planning. He insisted that it was important that we meet in person so I trekked downtown for an extra in office day this week to meet with him.

We spent 5 mins splitting up the work and have been working separately 5’ apart for the last hour. There is absolutely nothing that we needed to meet in person for. We didn’t even need a call, we could have worked this out in a 3 line email. I think he just likes to fill his in office day with meetings so he feels like it was worthwhile driving in. Now I know this and won’t fall for it again but I still need to deal with Friday traffic going home. I think this is a perfectly adequate reason for me to leave early today.

I am in office, seeing clients. It has been nonstop since 810am.

I really dislike people.

Highlight of the day: An older teen and her mother. Somehow they segued from boob jobs to Anne Frank. Didja like, know, that like somebody SNITCHED on her, or something? And it. like, made her die? I think?

Be happy that they even know who Anne Frank is. Many young people don’t even go that far.

Taking this job is the second-biggest mistake I’ve made in my life. The first was marrying my ex, at least I was finally able to fix that.

Unrelenting nastiness from the boss as soon as he walked in the door this morning until he left this afternoon. Nothing like getting berated in front of most of the staff and one random customer.

All of this over is still over the painting issue I mentioned upthread. This contractor the boss hired apparently has guys working for him that have the collective IQ of a potato. Upon my discovery this morning that the job still wasn’t done, the contractor made a few phone calls and now thinks that his collection of dunces went to the wrong place to paint. So someone got a free paint job.

Somehow this is my fault. I’m still trying to wrap my brain around this one.

I dream of telling the boss to do something anatomically impossible to himself and walking out the door. If I thought I had a chance of landing a job soon I’d be gone already. I know I should be grateful that I even have a job, but dammit I shouldn’t have to put up with this.

I have to go back tomorrow and deal with this all over again. And now I’m getting a migraine. I have no sick or vacation time, I can’t stay home. Send good thoughts for me please.

Does boss own the business, or does he have a boss? Is there an HR department? Because going to them and saying the words “hostile work environment” might be a useful thing to do. You’ve got witnesses to his behaviour, and if he’s put any of it in email, you’ve got it in writing, too.

Boss owns the business. No one higher to complain to. HR person is the office manager, and she sees what is going on and feels bad for me, but she can’t really do anything or she’ll get canned. She already got screamed at for defending me once, so her hands are tied too.

I’m still praying for a well-placed lightning bolt…

Dear coworker: if I ask for a sales order number, I need the number. I don’t need you to tell me “it’s created”. I do hope it is, that’s why I asked you for the number. Sales is your damn job, not mine; when you ask me for a production order’s number I give you the godamned number, kindly do me the courtesy of doing the same.

And yes, when I ask for the number of the material you just created, I’d like the fucking number. Same when I ask for a customer’s number, I’d like the number, specially since we have several instances where a same company is in the system under different numbers, representing different locations or subsidiaries, all of them with the same name. Telling me “basf” (not an actual client, but the size of some of ours) isn’t particularly helpful.

I’m starting to wonder whether she’s selectively deaf and can’t understand the word “number”.

Nava, there’s no need to dance around the answer. Occam’s Razor leads one to the conclusion that coworker is stupid. I’d use an analogy but I don’t want to insult holes in the ground.

Can I say that? This is my first post in the Pit.

See, my thought was that the coworker simply does not like Nava, and has decided to make her life more difficult.

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Hanlon’s Razor.

This message board is great. I learned something by accident. I didn’t realize the above was an actual quotation attributed to anyone until I Googled up the exact phrasing. Hanlon’s Razor will come in handy many times throughout the workweek.

I am so fucking sick of people who make reservations for smoking rooms “because it’s all that was left when I made the reservation online” and then it’s *our *fault they “didn’t know it was smoking”. :rolleyes: Whatthefuckever. If you reserve a smoking room online, it’s your fucking fault. If you reserve the wrong day online it’s your fucking fault. If you reserve **anything **online, guess what? IT’S YOUR FUCKING FAULT. Don’t come in and throw your member status around because you’re too busy fellating your ego to pay attention to minor yet important details.

Stop piggybacking on my work and do your own!! Don’t ask me to send you my design or my graphic that it took me hours to find and adapt–you’re supposed to be the “webmaster”–do your own effen work. And when you were on the original distibution list for the newest promotion, don’t wait until the day it starts and send me a mail that says “send me everything you have on this.” And ESPECIALLY, when I tell you where to find the information, do not tell me I have “IRKED” you.