World of Warcraft General Discussion

Nope, I didn’t know that - I haven’t spent much time in Silvermoon yet. I’ll look for them :slight_smile:

Guess I better clean up my language a bit. Sorry if I offended anyone.

I’m just nuts about this thread.:slight_smile:

Q

Okay, how the flying !@#$ do I attack the damned ballistas with this frost wyrm for the An End To All Things … DK quest? I can’t see a freaking thing between the wyrm’s wings flapping and all the smoke in the air, and the yellow targeting thing seems to have a mind of its own as to whether it’s going to show up or not (sure, it shows up as soon as I click the “Fire” button, but fat lot of good that does me).

Okay, never mind. I figured it out.

Mister Rik Rox! :wink:

Thanks!

Q

One thing to remember with the frost wyrm is that if you’re taking a beating, break off before you’re down to nothing, go out into the field where the cauldron is, land, dismiss the dragon, and then after a second or two, reblow the horn. The dragon comes back with all health. Then you can just space bar to lift off and go back to killin’.

Rolled a wee baby belf pally this weekend and spent it grouping with a fellow guildie doing the same thing.

So far, the most interesting thing, copied from a comment to a friend:

Kind of weird to run away from Luzran, I’ll say, after being used to my hunter.

Toddling along and taking in the lovely sights of the Dead Scar, ducking the cannibals and whatnot, until a warlock zooms past yelling “RUN!” and I look up to see half my screen full of steaming green-white abomination *way *closer than Ikakal ever wanted to be. And lots of other baby belfs running hell for leather too. (Ikakal survived, and even rezzed the less fortunate :smiley: )

I’m also enjoying the belf lore that I come across, although some of it, like the giant Arthas statues or the bits I’ve seen so far of the Order of Blood Knights, makes me twitch a bit.

Jut a quick note:

My hunter just hit 80. My 78 mage and 78 priest are next.

Grats!

KOOL BEENZ?

Or is it, “Ah hurd DAT”?

Oh, wait…

“I KNOW, right?”

(I collect “catch-phrases”: “YEAH, BUDDY!

Anyway, “Way to go, Steve!” from a lowly Level 14!:slight_smile:

Quasi

(Wolkenlaufre’s my toon)

Grats!

Kael’thas statues. Arthas is the Lich King, and there aren’t a whole lot of blood elves wanting to commemorate him, considering what he did to Quael’thalen.

The Blood Knight lore is a little bit squicky, what with kidnapping and torturing one of the Naaru. However, you later discover that the Naaru that was being drained for the Blood Knight powers (and later was stolen by Kael’thas to power the new Sunwell) willingly sacrificed himself as part of a larger plan.

Ah yes. One of my ‘holy smeg!’ moments of lore. (I’m a biiiiig lore junkie)

Some of my others:
Where the dwarves came from. And then later, finding out the gnomes were similarly … Created.

Seeing the redemption of the Ashbringer in the DK questline (I cheered!)

Wraithgate (I think everyone likes this one) (“Death to the scourge!” YAY! “And death to the living!” WHA?!)

Finding out what Saronite really is.

The entire questline with Arthas and the strange, spectral kid (especially the ending, proving a certain paladin is NOT lawful-stupid!)

The reveal about the new Scarlet Onslaught. (Talk about ‘fool me once…’!)

The re-uniting of the bronzebeards, culminating with a meeting that showed me just how unemotional dwarven conversation can be!

There’s a lot of other awsome lore moments, although my guild is getting a little sick of me playing tour-guide. (“And this is important because…” “Nice. Can you kill it now?”)

So … what was up with the moment the DKs free themselves from the Lich King’s control? I knew it was coming, but when it actually came it just seemed to come completely out of left field with no lead-in whatsoever.

I think I should have waited until after the 3.1 patch to install LK. I had most of the patch pre-downloaded, but it appears that installing LK caused it to start all over again, and now here it is, 11:35AM PDT on patch day and I’m only at 42% downloaded. This is the second time now I’ve had the day off from work on patch day and can’t spend the whole day playing because these downloads take so freakin’ long!

Don’t worry, they just did a push to the PTR last night and are still have a number of boss encounters to test in Ulduar, so it’s probably still a ways away.

Thanks for the correction :slight_smile: Kael’s still a little oogy, but less so.

I agree. I was quite happy with the entire DK storyline right up until the climax, which fell completely flat. I think the feeling they were trying to get across, [spoiler]is that the only reason you were serving was because of the Lich King’s micromanaging iron grip, and that once that wavered, you immediately repented of your actions.

…but I never got that feeling at all. I mean, okay, so he pulled up some random trash off the battlefield, you, gave you puny training in your limited powers, and threw you en-masse against an enemy he knew, or at least suspected, to be so powerful as to annihilate the lot of you in an instant, simply to get the opportunity to sneak a deathblow of his own in.

In short, the Big Reveal is that you’re cannon fodder, and this “shocking betrayal” of your adored leader is all it takes.

BS, I say. By the time I got there, I had gotten well into the character and the quests up to that point. The Master wishes, nay, expects us to die fighting in his service? Glory to his name! Victory or death! I only hope that I bury my axe in a few of those Light-besotted skulls before I fall! (why yes, she IS an orc death knight, why do you ask? :smiley: )

But alas, off you trot to your faction leader, letter of commendation in hand, greeted as a probable future hero, while still caked in the blood of the Chapel’s defenders.[/spoiler]

Pretty weak ending.

I did that whole introductory deathknight “thing”, and basically, all through your “training” Arthas is suposed to be a cold, ruthless, baddass. Then at the Battle Of Whitehope Chapel, he gets hit once and runs away. So, to any dwarf (my DK is a dwarf) that makes him a worthless pansy. We dwarves smash each other in the face with hammers, just for fun (example: the two dwarves in Wildhammer Stronghold… SMASH! “That was great! Do it again!”).

No self respecting dwarf would fight for a coward who runs away from a fight.

Anyway, that’s just another way to look at it.

If you never did Sunwell Plateau, you really should try to get in on an 80-stacked retro raid sometime. The Kil’jaeden fight is hands-down the best raid encounter the game’s ever had, and at the end is a massive chunk of lore that ties off assorted threads, including that M’uru did not, in fact, make much of a sacrifice. The shadowy void-being of destruction, that the Blood Knight corruption turned him into, is effectively exorcised by the players, and his crystal core is dunked into the newly-powered Sunwell. Purified by Anveena’s sacrifice to destroy Kil’jaeden (and EXTREMELY bright - screenshots turn out a golden blob :smiley: ) it’s destined to lend a rebirth to M’uru as a fully powered, revitalized Naaru. It’s less than two years of inconvenience to a being that measures time in millenia, and results in, among other things, the death of a major force in the Legion. Far from a sacrifice, you start to wonder if maybe they didn’t intend to set things up that way…

See, I don’t generally find Kael oogy, but then I played through Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne, so I really understand a lot of his motivation for the things he’s done. Actually, if you really like lore, I’d suggest finding Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne, even if you decide to look up cheat codes and run through it just for the lore without going through the tedium of trying to play a RTS game at the same time. ALL of the major players in WoW get their stories told in WIII.