World of Warcraft General Discussion

Also, many add-ons that put a button on the mini-map allow you to move it’s location. The exact way to move it varies, but try dragging it or shift-dragging it.

Yeah, I tried that - I had Carbonite cover up the mini-map button when I first installed it. After either disabling or moving all of the add-on icons I know that’s not the issue.

Demo, I’ll try your suggestion of disabling the add-ons - I’m guessing it’s the XPerl Unit Frames since it was the last thing I added. I’m not sure I like it that much anyways (although maybe I just don’t have it configured right - so many options…).

Yes. That’s the place, and that’s the guy. It’s the quest chain to get your Inferno minion. As soon as I got mine (my warlock is Horde), I flew over to Tarren Mill. Guess which nearby Alliance town I dropped it on first :smiley:

Sorry, but I have no idea other than what everyone else suggested (another icon covering it). I’ve never done a battleground, so I’m not familiar with that icon.

Thank you! And there’s nothing “only” about level 75!

Grrr, I wish they could provide more bandwidth for these patch files. I’ve had the background downloader going for almost two days straight and I’ve only downloaded a total of 117MB so far. Dangit, with my bandwidth I can download 117MB of porn from Usenet in about 10 minutes!

Dude! Not even any Goddam Crickets???:D;)

What? Am I supposed to reach my own effin’ conclusions that this might not work???:slight_smile:

Y’all forgetting I’m demented, or what???:confused:

Just kiddin’, but again: these threads/posts are better than what’s in any damn book or magazine!

Okay, somebody cue up that damn Simon and Garfunkel song if I cain’t have no crickets! :smiley:

Quasi

At the beginning there are fewer people who have the patch already downloaded available as sources for your downloads. As the patch date gets closer it will be faster. Patience.

>sigh< Just did the Arachnid and Plague Quarters on Naxx with my guild - I’m in the “second-string” 25-man team. My class leader is driving me nuts with his “OMG! Why did you roll on THAT!?” and “OMG! Why DIDN’T you roll on that!” It’s like he gives me advice 3 minutes after I could actually use it. :smack:

Part of the problem is that I haven’t raided for 3 months and I’ve lost my edge. Hey, I TOLD HIM that I’d never been in those quarters before, but maybe he didn’t believe me. But, you know, sometimes I wonder how I get into these raids and stuff when I’m not some mad theorycrafter or constantly tweaking spec or not having a meltdown because I wasn’t top DPS in the raid.

I suspect part of the problem is that he takes raiding WAY more seriously than I do, like it’s the only part of the game he’s into whereas I enjoy everything but the PvP (nevermind I’m on a PvP server… didn’t know any better when I first started)

…sigh… maybe I’ll go on a fishing trip in Grizzly Hills for a bit to relax…

My “solution” was pretty similar. I was able to set myself up as an alternate, or “second stringer”. I fill in when one of the regulars can’t make it. Everyone knows I am not serious or hardcore, but can still “bring the pain” if needed. I tell, them to mark “my” sheep or “my” trap. If I am tanking, I let someone who has been there do the marking. Then, I follow the kill order. If there wasn’t enough time to mark everything, I tab around to see which mob has the most DOTs and debuffs on it. That is the one the group is burning down first. Or I do an Assist on the main tank (same result). I don’t need to have every fight memorized that way.

As for gear, I use Ratings Buster. Some gear is an upgrade, some is a sidegrade, some would be a downgrade. It isn’t always obvious. If a regular needs it, I defer to him/her. If not, I see it as being up for grabs. This is one of those things where Ventrilo helps. We can talk about it before everyone greeds or passes.

That’s usually the role I play, too, but I was asked to join the team to help round it out. I do believe the raiding officers would like to see me get a little more serious about raiding as I have some talent in that area despite being notoriously oddly-geared and one of the more casual of the casual guild members. I also don’t talk much during the raid, I do what I’m told, show up on time, have food/water/buffs on hand (usually with extras, too), and don’t emo over loot, all features highly desirable in a raider.

The guild master is very cool with me - I may not be a L33T raider but I am generous with my mats to guildmates, answer questions in guild chat on where to farm items without screaming GO TO THOTTBOT N00B!, help people level their alts, and I’m nice to strangers which helps the guild PR considerably. In fact, yesterday when I showed up at the raid he presented me with a nice upgrade on my mace (at a steep discount off the normal price) to help me in return for helping others. And many others like having me around even if I’m not the most kick-ass member, which I’ve never pretended to be.

But I think part of the problem is that the class leader I’m under for this team is the hardcore raider/PvP type, that’s ALL he does, and I think he literally can not understand the mindset of someone with a different playstyle. To him, I’m a very strange perplexing mix of good player and bumbling ignoramus. If I applied myself with the same obsessive approach to raiding he does no doubt I would be L33T and he doesn’t understand why I don’t do that. At least one other person in the guild, another hardcore raider, told me once that he doesn’t understand my viewpoint either, but he sort of envied it because I obviously enjoyed the game more, and more of it overall, than he did.

Well, it’s flattering to be asked to be first-string on the second team (yes, we’re large enough to field two full 25 man teams), and it will give me incentive to upgrade my gear and playing, but on the other hand if I’m related to second-string/fill-in it won’t bother me a bit either as the guild is full of adults with young children and demanding professions (our GM is a doctor and does occasionally miss raids on account of emergencies at work) so those of us who are fill-ins do get to raid.

And I did go on a fishing trip in Grizzly Hills this morning. Very relaxing, and I replenished my supply of firecracker salmon. Mmmm! Love that spellpower!

Followup: Went and tamed myself an Elder Mistvale gorilla, and then the two of us promptly hit the back door of Uldaman to politely ask Grimlok about what he might have in his pockets. :smiley: That was an educational experience, seeing how a tenacity pet works out compared to a ferocity pet. Neat.

I see what people are saying about getting lazy when using a gorilladin, but it didn’t seem that way to me. Could have been because Dafydd is brand new, though.

I was constantly switching shots, laying freezing or explosive traps, and healing while he tanked multiple mobs. He’d lose control at the end of fights, though, when the targeted mob cut and ran, so I found that I was constantly keeping a finger ready on the Concussive Shot key to stop them running out of range. Or Feigning when more adds popped up to make my life even more fun.

That doesn’t happen so much with my raptor, possibly because lil’ Nergal can kill the hell out of them first? With Nergal, all I have to do is send 'im in while I stand back and weave stings and Arcane Shot to take them down hard and fast.

It also seems that I need to be more careful with Freezing Traps since Dafydd breaks those very easily. :smack:

In any event, time for lots and lots more practice… I’d really like to ask Grimlok for his spear, so this seems like a good place to work on figuring out strats with tougher multi-mob situations and my gorilla. Any other good practice locations?

I think you are gonna like gorillas. For practicing, start in an area where the mobs are ummm 3 or 4 levels lower than you - it’s not for leveling, just for the practice. You want to get a feel for it. Let the ape attack, and wait. You want him to get that first growl and thunderstomp in. If you don’t have Omen threat meter, get it and use it. You will see that the gorilla threat spikes up a bit with each growl or stomp. You want that. It won’t take long. Then you can drop a trap at your feet if you don’t feel confident, and start shooting. Keep mend on the pet, and enjoy. If you want to see how it works first, go to Big Red Kitty and watch his “gorilladin” videos.

Caution - Part of using thunderstomp, is knowing when NOT to use it. Also, make absolutely sure cower hasn’t turned itself on, It sometimes does. I have cower on my action bar, where I can watch for that.

Basically, you round up some mobs, stomp, and shoot. Volley works nice for this.

Heh heh heh. I just wanted to mention that soloing Scarlet Monastery is very very easy when you’re lvl 61 :smiley:

On the other hand, last night I took a crack at the Sunken Temple, since I needed to go in there for the Argent Dawn “Forging the Mightstone” quest. I was handling the mobs okay, but I eventually gave it up. The problem was that, even with the Atlas addon to help me, the minimap was absolutely worthless for figuring out where I was. It’s got every level of the temple just mashed together, leaving no reference points to determine my actual location. Grrr!

Anyway, I’ve got one or two more things to take care of, and then I guess I’ll wander on over to the Blasted Lands and take a look at this “Outland” I keep hearing so much about :stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah, sunken temple has a very small footprint, but is at least 4 stories tall. It’s impossible to develop a map for it either, because it’s not four floors, but dozens of winding staircases and balconies and basements where to get from one side to the other you have to go up 2 floors, down 3 floors, then back up one floor. It’s a nightmare to navigate.

So question. What’s the easiest way for my 63 Druid to get involved in PVP that isn’t going to show me for the absolute newb that I am? :slight_smile:

It’s difficult when your ones digit is on the low end. Battlegrounds are sorted by tens, so if you jumped into, say, Alterac Valley, you’d be dealing with levels 61-70, and most guys over 63 are going to stomp you.

That said, you’re not necessarily useless. If you want to go the damage route, I found it worthwhile to latch onto a higher-level ally and follow them around, assisting them with killing other players. The extra bit of damage you do can make the difference. The caveat there is that if an enemy sees a level 68 and a level 63, they’re going to explode the 63 first so they can deal with the 68.

Also, if you’re Druid, you can do a surprising amount of good by focusing on healing. Few people bother to do that in the Battlegrounds, it seems, and it’s possible to keep the 65+ players alive longer with your lower-level spells. Buffs are invaluable; buff everyone you can as often as you can. The ready period before the battleground begins is primarily for this.

Basically, if you run all over the place and try to jump enemies by yourself with no regard for strategy or tactics, you’ll be seen as a newb. Help your allies, and nobody will look twice at you.

Unfortunately, I don’t have much experience with /duels, Arena, or world PVP, so I can’t help with those.

If you’re a bit nervous about it, Alterac Valley can be a good place to get your PvP feet wet since there’s 40 people on a team, so it’s easy to blend in. AV has a lot of objectives, so you can pick and choose what you’d like to get involved in, and if you visit your faction’s base camp beforehand, you can pick up a fair stack of quests to complete in the battleground.

Warsong Gulch could be a good choice, too, if you go the healing route. Follow the player carrying the flag and keep heals on them. You’ll find most players will just nuke the flag carrier and ignore the healers (bad strategy, but most battleground players are bad at it), allowing you to simply escort the flag back to your base.

A stealthed kitty druid even at a low level can be a great help defending a node in Arathi Basin.

In my battlegroup, the Eye of the Storm games in the non-80 brackets are usually 15 horde vs. 2 alliance, so if there’s a similar situation in your battlegroup, that could be a good (or bad) place to start, too.

I was shopping at Target today, buying pants, when I spotted the WotLK box on the shelf. I wasn’t planning to buy it until I got closer to lvl 70, but hey, there it was, so what the heck.

So I’ve got a human death knight named Dentek now. I was having trouble thinking of a name, and then I spotted the package of dental floss-picks sitting near my Mac, and I had my DK’s name.

These DK starting quests are … hilarious. “Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinkin’!” And all those screaming townsfolk were just damned funny :smiley: And making ghouls in the mine … “Mommy!”

Also, has everybody already heard the latest from Level 70 Elite Tauren Chieftain, “Rogues Do It From Behind”? (It’s in the songlist of the little music player there - scroll down.) Good stuff.

I’m sure you’re already aware of this, but just in case…

Did you know that Tauren Chieftain hangs out in Silvermoon City between gigs at the World’s End Tavern in Shattrath? You can see them on the balcony if you turn right immediately after coming in the front gates. Their manager and groupies are on the ground below them.

On my two druids (one feral and one balance), if it’s Alterac Valley I stay with the crowd for the most part. If you try to go it alone, you will get destroyed regardless of level or gear (I was competing on several different class toons at level 70 with almost full S1 or S2 purple gear). Kitty druids are great for capturing unprotected towers and graveyards. On the feral, I was the “bait” to pull the NPC guards off a graveyard for example. Then a buddy would cap it while I ran the guards around. On the moonkin, I was the capper while someone else dragged guards. Towers are even easier, because you can prowl right in to the flag. Also in AV, when it’s time to fight the boss, they always want tanks. I can haz moar tanks. That means warriors, paladins, and bears. Good times.