I’m with you there, Bill. It still bothers me to see elves with guns, much less helicopters, motorcycles, and a big freaking crashed spaceship full of space goats.
Been there, done that! “Why is it taking me so long to kill this thing? OH!”
I got that fishing pole, but my fishing skill isn’t high enough to use it yet I guess that’s another way for a level 80 to spend his time!
Congrats! My mage hit 80 earlier in this thread, and my shadow priest is at 72. I’ve been having some fun playing up a holy priest for the last couple of weeks, though.
There are some other reasons, too. There’s a boss fight (I don’t remember where - Magister’s Terrace?) where the boss will mind control players and force you to attack your buddies. Since spells with cooldowns tend to be the most powerful, it’s a good idea to blow your cooldowns before you get mind-controlled and end up blowing them on your buddy.
My mage got mind-controlled and ended up nuking our healer during that fight. We wiped.
There’s some decent information at shadowpriest.com, although they get a bit anal-retentive about specs.
Thanks, I’ll check there. I have to admit that EJ kind of gives me a headache, though. There’s a lot of wading through math and irrelevant posts and people contradicting each other in order to get to the good stuff, I’ve found. I’m willing to do it for my mage main (who’s obsessed with squeezing out every last bit of DPS he can), but for an alt I’m more interested in “Here are some acceptable cookie cutter specs, along with the rotations that go with them, and here are the stats and gear priorities you should emphasize.” If the priest catches on to the point where I’m wanting to bring him to our off-night raids, then I’ll spend more time researching specifics like that. Until then, I just want to level effectively and quickly.
My group just finally downed the 10-man 3-drake (plagued protodrake for me, yay!) which, due to skewed tuning, is actually a lot harder than the “heroic” version. I assume you’re talking about the chain of survivability cooldowns used to keep your Sartharion tank alive while Shadron & Vesperon’s disciples are up, giving Sarth triple buffs on his flame breath. This is something you need to have planned out before the fight happens, the precise sequence of who uses what, in what order, so that all you should really need to do is call someone’s turn out and they’re on it. It’s not something you want to improvise, because as long as both disciples are up, the breaths are very likely to one-shot the tank outright.
It doesn’t have to be healers, either. Ret paladins can spec into divine guardian or simply sacrifice & divine shield, hunters can get sacrifice and intervene from their pet, unholy DKs can get the AMZ bubble, etc, or you could just coat him in fire resist gear and chug a fire protection potion. A 25-man raid has a very wide spread of abilities open to it, so you can get a LOT of cooldowns for tanking even out of your DPSers.
…however, due to the way they’ve tuned the 25-man encounter, it’s not terribly hard to actually have Shadron dead BEFORE Vesperon even lands, which makes the breaths really easy to deal with. Bug your slacker DPS to step it up Getting every last bit of ridiculously high DPS was the silver bullet that made everything easier for my group.
So last night my baby ret pallie poked her head into Warsong Gulch and PvP for the very first time, along with a fellow guildie to help explain things.
It was a mess. We had two gnome rogue twinks on the other team, and no real strategy on our side, so we got pwned.
I’m sure that PvP can be much more fun than this, but it was overwhelming since I’m used to PvE. We’ll probably try again in the next bracket up and see how it goes. Hopefully by that point I’ll have her kitted out with better gear, too.
You could borrow from my shadow priest’s build (Queron, Moonrunner server). It isn’t exactly the cookie cutter raid spec or level spec, but it has worked well for me.
Actually, a good place to find a standard cookie cutter is WoW Wiki. Google for Warcraft priest build, and then just hop to the Wiki link that pops up as a search result.
I’ll admit I haven’t read all the pages of this thread, so I am sorry if this has been addressed. I have been playing WoW for about 2 years now on a “Normal” PvE Realm (Muradin). I decided a couple of days ago to try my hand at a RPPvP Realm (Ravenholdt) and I did the questing up until level 10 as a Dwarf hunter. I didn’t encounter anyone during my play. However, when I finally went into Ironforge, the Trade channel was nothing but players trash talking each other about one who wanted to smoke weed and the other one calling him a unmotivated loser and other people talking about where they went to college and doing the other player’s wife, etc.
I was quite disappointed. My question is, is there any actual “Role Playing” on RP realms? Is it ever enforced?
Yes to your first question, no to your second. The majority of players honestly couldn’t care less about RP, even on RP servers, and frankly I don’t blame them. I don’t find MMOs conducive to roleplaying at all, ironically enough, and WoW is very bad about it due to the lack of customization for your character. City of Heroes is better because your character’s identity is tied very tightly to appearance, ability selection, and name, but even then I find it difficult to RP. And on the Trade channel most certainly there won’t be RP, because that’s where players do business, and it takes a certain level of dedication to conduct business in character. I hate the random conversations that occur on Trade, and nobody ever enforces it.
That all said, RP does happen sometime. I know I’ve seen it often in the inn in Goldshire on the RP server I used to play on, and I expect it happens elsewhere. I suspect your best bet, if you’re honestly interested, is to find an RP-centric guild. RPers are usually pretty helpful, generally much more so than non-RPers, and they’re always eager for more people to play with.
In an “RP-PVP” server, the PVP part of the classification far outweighs the RP part, and MMORPG PVP seems to attract a disproportionate amount of the dregs of humanity.
Yeah, really. I should add that my experience was on an RP server, no PVP. Given what I’ve seen of the general WoW population, I would expect that an RP-PVP server attracts all those d-bags who like to make life hell for RPers, so in a way it could be even worse than a regular PVP server.
Shrug. I play on a “normal” server. We have our jerks too, but most of us just ignore them.
We have plenty of PvP, at our discretion - you wanna fight? Set your flag and go for it. You don’t want to fight? Then just don’t flag. It seems to work. People who want to fight can, and those who want to be left alone are left alone. There are tricks to get around it sometimes, but these are usually either not worth the effort, or are generally frowned on.
I imagine some people like the RP aspect, but it seems to me, that after a while it would get stale.
I love the RP aspect in theory (I play on an RP/PvE server) but in practice it just never seems to work out. When I first started my blood elf mage I started an RP guild where the RP was basically “stay in character in guild chat.” I know there are some guilds on our server that have elaborate storylines (not many anymore–most of them have jumped ship for Moon Guard, which seems to be the de facto “go here if you want serious RP” server) but unless you get yourself in with one of these groups or one of the small-group RPs, opportunities seem to be mostly limited to hanging around Silvermoon City and watching the teenage girls pretend to be vampires having angsty, guilt-ridden sex with other vampires and hitting on anything male.
I’ve often flirted with the idea of trying to start a serious, mature RP group (as in, if you can’t prove that you can write better than the average person and that you have at least a passable imagination beyond “I’m the illegitimate and staggeringly beautiful daughter of Kael’thas Sunstrider and Archimonde (don’t ask)” or “I’m a vampire so filled with angst about my condition that I only feed on Murlocs,” you don’t get in. But the combination of raiding four times a week and being an officer in my guild just doesn’t give me the free time to devote to it. If I ever get sick of the raiding rat race, I might just give it a shot.
My main is on Moon Guard and there’s still quite a bit of casual RP going on. People regularly advertise in character on the trade channel and I’m always stumbling across little conversations that are clearly part of ongoing storylines that people are working on.
For me having people play in character is part of the fun. It adds to the fantasy of the world. If you want an RP experience, Moon Guard is where it’s at.
What is this other “instance” in Stormwind? at the end of the canal that separates the Trade District from Old Town, and apparently under the flight point, is a large portcullis with the same swirly portal thing you see at the entrances of instances. If the portal was passable, it looks like it would just let you inside the city wall to one side of the main gate.
On a possibly related note, I had the strangest thing happen while my death knight was pummeling one of the lvl 60 training dummies in The Barracks. At some point I saw the word “Evade” flash on the screen. The only times I normally see “Evade” is when I attack a mob that is leashing back to its spot, or when I attempt to attack a mob that has somehow spawned partially within a fixed object. A moment later, I noticed that I was flagged for PvP. WTF? It appears that something or other evaded my attack, and that attack apparently turned on my PvP flag for perhaps 30 seconds. Except … the only thing I was attacking was the training dummy. I continued smacking the dummy, but wasn’t able to get my PvP flag to come on again.
The reason I say “possibly related” is that the particular dummy I was hitting happens to be just on the other side of a wall from the aforementioned “instance portal”. So now I’m left wondering if there is perhaps some Horde person imprisoned within that wall … ?
But wait, I just took a second look, and what’s actually on the other side of the wall from the training dummy is the “moat”. I think I know what happened now. I used my DK’s “Pestilence” spell, which spreads to nearby enemies - in this case it would normally be simply the training dummies to either side of the one I was hitting. What do you want to bet there was a Horde player trying to sneak through the moat just on the other side of the wall, and my Pestilence somehow tagged him as well as the dummies? I can’t think of anything else that would have done it.
I also had this … amusing … encounter with another player in Cathedral Square while interacting with Baros Alexston regarding a quest (Dentek is me):
[Elyethalir] says: hey
[Elyethalir] says: can i have some money
You laugh at Elyethalir.
[Elyethalir] says: wat
[Elyethalir] says: hey
[Elyethalir] says: can i have some money
:rolleyes:
I guess that’s another way for a level 80 to spend his time!
Getting every last bit of ridiculously high DPS was the silver bullet that made everything easier for my group.