Clique lets you assign spells to a key combo, so you can mouse over/click on a Grid square then use the key combo to shoot off a heal. Better yet, if you like you can limit Clique’s functioning to certain UI parts only, like only to Grid if you want. I did this - limited Clique to only working within Grid, then set up my priest’s heals to various combos. Like right-click is Greater Heal, shift-right click is Power Word: Shield, alt-left click is Prayer of Mending, and so on.
And I agree with Bosstone’s assessments - it’s not automated healing by any means. I’ve met many players who insist on certain levels of addon “purity” for different reasons. (For instance, my guild had a deaf player as well, so he was exempt from having to be in Vent.) Some are excellent players regardless, like the player I just mentioned, but more aren’t. I’m pretty sure that at least one player in my guild who doesn’t use addons is also just bad at paying attention.
Hmm, I probably wouldn’t change my hotkeys but targeting on mouseover would allow me to target a tiny bit faster, and I can imagine mapping my left/right mouse buttons to dispel magic/abolish disease (which right now are mapped to awkward keys for me). I’ll check it out!
If you’re going to do this, I would map something else other than left-click. This would remove your ability to select a player with left-clicking on the Grid entry, which would screw up the rest of your healing spells. Maybe right-click and shift-right-click or something like that.
If you plan to only use Clique with Grid, there’s actually a Grid-specific addon (called ClickSets, I believe) that incorporates Clique’s functionality into Grid.
Ah, here, ClickSets. If you’ve already got Clique set up, it’s probably not worthwhile to switch over unless you want to save processing cycles (I think ClickSets is less intensive than Clique, but I have no data on hand).
What class/spec are you? How do you know who needs healing outside your immediate group and whoever you have on target and focus?
Maybe I just suck but I can’t imagine being able to keep up with the healing requirements of TOC is I didn’t have Grid+Clique never mind trying to heal the hard modes. Being a raid healer makes it almost necessary and I imagine that even the tank healers find it more than moderately useful.
Yeah I’m looking into that.
Like I said, we can run through Northrend beasts HTOC 10 with a shammy in her place but the same team wipes repeatedly with her on the healing team. She does not screw up raid mechanics or repeatedly make mistakes, her healing is more than adequate for TOC 10 and 25 regular, it is only in the super high healing demand atmosphere of HTOC 10 that it becomes noticable.
I agree (except I don’t even use DBM, mostly because I don’t run instances anymore).
Whenever I am in a group, I heal. But, I have never used any add-ons to do so (most of the stuff that Bosstone mentions are available as part of the default UI, so I’ve never had any difficulty identifying folks who have been poisoned / cursed and firing off the appropriate debuff, or who don’t have an active X of the Wild up). Since, at most, I would be running heroics, keeping track of 5 (in most cases, only 4) unit-frames is easy enough to do without any extra assistance.
However, I am looking into getting an add-on like Grid because pretty much most of what I do these days is PVP (BGs + Wintergrasp). Unlike the case with a PVE raid, where one is typically placed in a group and given specific healing responsibilities, there are no guarantees that you will ever even see the folks in your particular group on the field in a BG (especially the bigger ones like AV or IoC). So the default unit-frames are largely useless, especially when trying to determine who in the raid is actually close enough for me to heal them. So, really, I just need a way to track who in the raid is within range (and that’s something that I understand is being incorporated into the default UI anyway). Knowing that, I can easily handle the rest.
This was also one of my “I will nots”, thanks for the reminder!
-I will not join a guild that has an application process.
Bosstone
I can see how some classes have a need for it because timing is crucial. I was mainly just wanted to vent some frustrations.
Everyone’s playing style is different and it bugs me when I see someone trying to push their playing styles on to other people. I think it must stem from the “elitist” views that seem to be flowing freely now. It used to be people had to work hard to get their gear and with working hard came a certain level of experience. Now it seems that gear is so easily obtained that the gear scores are rising, but the skill level is not. Granted, I love the fact that gear is so easy to get only because it would have taken me forever to get where I am now, but some people just don’t have the skill to back it up.
When the ToCs dropped a few months ago I saw a lot of people saying, “OoOo a new 5 man with epic gear, let’s do it”, and then failing miserably wipe after wipe. They just couldn’t understand that H-ToC5 (even Reg) were not like the heroics they were running now. It was almost like it weeded out the “good” from the “bad”. I generally try not to bash players and I usually keep my frustrations to myself, but honestly a good player can only carry others so far. I felt bad leaving guildies behind, but it was impossible to down the bosses when they were pumping out less than 2k dps. Granted they were all fairly new 80s at the time, but they thought if they could do other heroics they could suddenly just jump into the new 5 mans.
/sorry about the rambling rant again…the mind…it wanders.
Agreed on the skill difference between ordinary heroics and even regular ToC; I’ve tried tanking regular ToC once, and after four fast wipes told the group I was tanking for, “sorry, you’d better find a new tank”.
-Paladin holy/prot. I just drag the groups straight from the raid window and arrange them on either side of my action bars. It stacks them in groups of 5 that just shows health/mana/debuffs. I then have 2 additional focuses for the MT and OT to keep them at a priority.
-I wouldn’t say you suck at all. You get the tools you need to get the job done. I probably will not see any hardmodes so whatever I do now is working for me. I did raid heals the other night in 25-toc reg…just popped a beacon on the MT and flash healed/holy shocked to keep everyone up and dropped holy light for any debuffs. We only did up to champions so anything beyond that I cannot guarantee that same strategy would work, but I would find one that would.
-It looks like you’re going to have to bring it up either way now. I hope it goes well. I never like to critique someone elses’ playing style to them. Fortunately, the group I run with has a…let’s say, passionate, raid leader that has no problem pointing out player failures, swearing, threatening to burn your house down if you don’t fix it, etc. It’s always interesting to see what he comes up with. For instances, on the 25 man melee kept dragging legion flame through groups, he threatened everyone to “fuck you with a 10 meter whale dick until you explode” and “pay for the repairs on the people you killed” if someone messed up. Oddly enough, we didn’t have 1 death to legion flames the next go. It’s all fun and amusing until you’re the one that messed up.
Anyway, with all the time and concern you are putting into this I’m sure it will work out for you. If it does not, it is not from lack of effort.
We’re an “over 18” guild (a few exceptions for minor children of guild members). We want to know your class and what you’re interested in (raiding, PvP, quests, achievements, casual). That’s it. We don’t ask for gear score, spec, bosses downed, or any of that. We ask what you want so we can direct you appropriately to our guild experts on, say, raiding, PvP, and that other stuff.
We didn’t used to do this, but at a certain point we suddenly got deluged with idiots and had to set up a screening process. We’re quite clear that if your ONLY interests is becoming an elite, world-class raider in a guild capturing world-first achievements we are NOT the place for you to be.
Well at least you could see that you might not have been ready (although I’m sure other factors could be involved). It’s the people who insist that the problem is xxx, but never anything they are doing that bug me.
I had recently dinged 80 on my rogue and managed to get almost everything I need from H/reg Toc (except banner trinket and the dagger) I had joined a pug group and it was rogue(me). shaman(healer), warrior(tank), paladin, DK. We managed to get the champions down after several wipes and frustration, but Confessor Paletress took us to task and the group kinda broke up. The healer kept blaming the tank, and then told me that I haven’t been here before (even though I had several pieces from heroic and more from reg). I did some quick Recount checking. The paladin and I were between 2-2.5k dps, the tank was at about 1k, and the DK was just over 1k. I haven’t played a shaman before but I assume a 12k hp/14k mana shaman might be a little low. I checked out the DK and found a few greens and even some caster gear. Those were just the cards I was dealt that day. I ended up grabbing the paladin and some friends and we finished it later.
I found that now, the reg/H ToC5 either go smooth as silk or are a complete disaster group.
That was my experience up till last night’s H ToC, where we had multiple wipes on the first set of bosses until the healer stopped healing me and my incautious melee dps ass and just concentrated on keeping the tank up, which was fine – I had to fly back in a couple times but we took out the 3 in one try once he started doing that; then we smashed through Eadric the Pure without any difficulties and wound up killing the third phase of the Black Knight with the healer and tank on about 15% life/mana each and everyone else dead. Fun, albeit pretty expensive in terms of repairs.
“Good afternoon, Meltdowns R Us, Quasi speakin’”;);)
I think since level 50, I’ve been pretty much been going it solo. The few offers I have had to join a guild, I have politely turned down, although if someone wants to group with me, I welcome that.
Recently I met a German player and we had a nice convo and he, too, invited me to join his guild. “Danke, aber nein danke…”, so we see each other every now and then, Europe being six hours ahead, say “Guten Tag - Gute Jagd” to each other and that’s it.
I know it takes longer to level, but I really prefer it this way, and it keeps folks who don’t know me - happy!
That sounds like the way to go. Something about it just doesn’t sit with me though, even if it is painless and easy. My guild is very casual, the only raiding we do is with other guilds or if we happen to have enough people on we might run something with a pugged person or two. Also doing old world raids for the lower levels a couple times a month. We don’t really advertise on the city chats, but more or less find people as we go along. Most of the 80s have several alts that they play so they’re constantly finding new people to add.
