World of Warcraft General Discussion

Your gear is definitely fine for Ony10 or ToC10, then. Good luck finding a fun group to run with!

A Shaman that’s currently apping to my guild was getting some questions from people about his seemingly mismatched gear… Apparently he logged out in his maximum ilvl gear instead of his Ele or Resto set. :smack:

Oh good. I mean, I assumed that’s what it was, but I wanted to check just in case. (There was a Resto Druid in an old guild of mine who had to be told that no, Hit gear is DPS gear, and you don’t need it at all as a healer. I dunno, maybe he thought that if he was under cap, there was a chance for the heal to hit the boss instead… :p)

Eh, no big deal. The sentiment is appreciated anyway. :smiley:

Don’t forget–anything that’s a costume or other appearance change, you can right-click its buff icon to remove it. The only time that won’t work is if it appears as a debuff–those you’d just have to let wear off. But I’m quite sure that any kind of fun cosmetic costume will be removeable.

30k is **more **than fine for Heroics. IIRC, most tanks didn’t start hitting 30k unbuffed until they were in Naxx gear. 40k unbuffed is what you’re going to see on tanks geared for current **endgame **content. Also, while HP can be a general measure of tank gearing, it can also be misleading. There was a DK tank in an old guild who stacked HP like crazy, but he couldn’t hold aggro for shit. (Protip: It doesn’t matter how much health you have if the mob is hitting somebody else.)

Yeah, but any moron with some spare cash and the right faction rep can throw together a tank set that’ll give them about 30k – I know this from experience, having done it. Much more than that, and you’re at least looking at someone who’s spent some time and effort (and presumably gotten some experience) actually tanking. You’re probably not going to find a tank in the high 30s doing anything but the heroic daily, but if you do get one, it should be a nice quick faceroll for the rest of the party.

According to the UPS tracking number that NewEgg gave me, my power supply has been Destination Scanned at the local UPS warehouse and is currently Out For Delivery. I should be able to have my computer back up and running tonight, assuming that nothing but the power supply got fried.

Well I couldn’t find any 10-man raids last night – probably by Monday night most people have done them. But I did help out with the guild ToC run and also did the daily heroic (Nex) with mostly guildies, so that was fun helping them get geared up.

Well Clique is not a required addon (yet) and she is an original member of the guild. I understand that tank healing can be done with hotkeys but in HTOC 10, we are not at the point where the tank healer only has to heal the tank and the raid healer only has to heal the raid. On Gormak, about 80% of my healing is probably on the tank but when the random raid member does take damage, they take it very fast and a shield would be very very useful. My hots are good to heal up folks that have taken fire damage but not so good at healing folks that might die in the fire.

Fingers crossed, here, jayjay!:slight_smile:

Q

I think its more than that. When recruiting, youa re not really trying to recruita great gearset, you are trying to recruit a great player and things like gearsets, glyphing, talent specs are about as good a predictor of player skill as we can find. Lets be honest. 90% of raiders that really know their class are about average, they know to get our of fires and they know how to react to encounter mechanics but they are not really capable of running a raid in blues (remember that guild that completed Ulduar in all blues).

Sometimes I’ll deliberately log in my fishing gear or even in a “festive dress” purely cosmetic “in-town” outfit just to piss off those obsessed with gear score. :smiley:

My guild does raid some end-game content, but we also work hard to keep things welcoming for casual and new players. We occasionally have someone slip through our app process who doesn’t get that. About six months ago we had of them nearly meltdown because he just did not get it, that some of us really aren’t obsessed with raiding even when we have the gear and are capable of doing it.

The guild, by the way, is Black Axe Clan on Thunderlord. No, we aren’t a world-class raiding guild, but we do alright.

Oh Newegg, how I love thee. Let me count the ways. Good luck!

Earlier in the week probaby would be better, yeah. By Monday night, most people are either already saved or are waiting for a Monday-night guild run. If you still have a problem finding a spot this week, try checking your realm forum to see if there’s anybody who runs a regular PUG–or you can advertise that you’re looking to run Ony/ToC10.

Random side note: Do you know about the Levitate trick? If you slap Levitate on players, it will keep them out of the fire on the ground. IIRC we usually only put it on ranged, and each ranged will call out for re-applications when they need it. Would then stop reapplying after the last snowbold is out.

I was at it for 8 hours straight last night (right up to server shut down at 6:00 ET). Managed to make it to lvl 28 and logged out being a tree in EP.

:smack:

I cannot believe I didn’t create a FP while I was in Light’s Hope Church over the weekend, so I’ll have that to do when I log back on.

That, and equip the Argent Dawn trinket.

Q

Jeeze, Quasi, what a marathon! And I’m gonna assume you meant 58 there, and not that Wolkie got so drunk he actually regressed in level, so grats! :stuck_out_tongue:

Are you headed to Outland now that you’ve gotten some sleep?

Sorry, SFG!

My bad. I meant I made it to 28 % toward 58. :slight_smile:

D’s making me help around the house all day today, so actually, I haven’t slept yet, but hope to get to 58 sometime tonight/early Wed.

Also, don’t forget a “marathon” for me, is like 10 minutes to y’all. :wink:

Q

Hey, eight hours is eight hours! And over a quarter of the way through 57 is excellent progress.

Aha, hadn’t thought about the realm forum; I’ll have to check that out. I have been looking forward to 3.3 when it should be a lot easier to get a PUG quickly.

Yeah, we’ve been using the levitate trick but levitate only lasts 2 minutes and the priest doesn’t always have time to apply levitate to everyone every 2 minutes plus every time someone gets hit by a fireball. Still its a neat trick.

There is no need to call out because the priest can set up his grid to detect whether or not the player has the levitate buff.

The disc priest I have been talking about has been sitting out HTOC 10 mostly because of latency issues but for some reason we have been rotating in all the tanks and not every tank is optimally geared for the encounter. Tank switching is about the most important part of the encounter and a couple of missed taunts in a row mean a wipe, there are just some tank classes that are better tank switching than others.

The only raid add-on I use is Deadly Boss Mods. No Grid, no Clique, no Healbot.
I figure it’s my $15/month and I’m going to play how I want to. I find the game more enjoyable when I’m busy looking for raid debuffs/who to heal/etc instead of just clicking the button that is flashing at me. I can’t see how the game is even enjoyable when you become essentially a button pusher for the add-on that tells you what to hit and when to hit it.

That’s just my opinion on it, and I’m not in any sort of hardcore raiding guild so it hasn’t been an issue. Either way, I have only received compliments on my healing.
I have a short list of things that I will not do:

  • I will not change the way I play to “fit in” better…ie if I don’t have a certain spec/flyph/addon/etc I won’t be able to do xxxx.
  • I will not schedule my real life around a raiding time in WoW.

I’m sure there is another one, but I can’t think of it now. My advice, DA, is to look at the logs first and get the facts down. My assumption though is that if she has such a strong opinion and stance about PvP that she might take it as an attack at her when you corner her and tell her she could be doing xxx better if she just does xxx instead. If you do intend to confront her, I would also look at the log of yourself and find anything that can be improved so she doesn’t feel as threatened.
I say if no one is dieing as a direct result to something she is doing then leave it be(unless you really are a hard core group). I’m sure there’s other things that the logs will show that can be a direct correlation to player failure, which can be specifically pointed out(like below).
Funny side story:
in my past 25-man group we were fighting Lord Jaraxxus and he cast legion flame on one of the melee dps who was trying to burn down an add with another group. The player panicked and instead of running straight away to a wall, he couldn’t decide where do go and ended up trying to run a circle around the group and blew up 7 people.
disclaimer: This rant was not intended to be targeted at any particular person, these are my thoughts on the matter. Any information given here may or may not be helpful and Jbone will not accept responsibility for any actions taken by the reader. :smiley:

And here’s the follow up…

I agree!

But it still won’t stop the “lfm H UP, PST w/gs” in trade channel.

I’ve been doing a little more healing in groups these days. I’m far from qualified to speak about it, but I can offer my opinion based on what I’ve been seeing so far.

First: Resto Druid, I’ve used both Healbot and Grid+Clique (what I’m currently using).

My experience is that neither option is an automated healer only requiring you to push the buttons. All Grid really does for me is present the same information the standard unit frames do in a customizable display that’s far easier to read. Rather than having to eye each person’s little string of buffs and debuffs to see whether they’ve all got Gift of the Wild running, Grid instead just puts up a bright little dot in a spot I’ve designated. Makes it easier to tell who has the buff and who doesn’t. It tells me the remaining duration of my HOTs on each target, estimates how much more health my heals will provide, turns the bar green when there’s poison on someone or purple when there’s a curse, etc.

TLDR version, it’s just information reorganized. I still have to decide how to prioritize targets, which spells to use, and when to cast them. True, being able to cast on the boxes with Clique makes things easier and a little like whack-a-mole, but frankly I could do the same thing with some smartly written macros and the basic unit frames. What Grid does is remove the lag time it would otherwise take me watching for debuffs, guessing at when my HOTs will run out, figuring out who’s suddenly got aggro, so on and so forth. When I healed Halls of Lightning last night, we would have wiped multiple times if I had to hunt for the info through the basic frames because damage was flying at us so fast. Maybe that’s an indication of my healing newbishness, but even so, Grid+Clique meant I could competently do the job without as much hard experience.

I’m not saying it’s not possible to heal without Healbot or Grid; you and Kahmu in the Burning Dog Legion are proof enough of that, as he doesn’t use Grid either (unless you guys are one and the same!). And certainly healers had to make do before the addons were written. But I look at them the same way I might look at power steering on a car: it’s not necessary, and you can drive without it, but it makes the ride a little easier and more pleasurable without actually taking the job of driving out of your hands.

I’ve been using Grid for healing and I really like it – it’s made me much, much better at dispelling magic and disease (especially in the ToC BK fight, when the tank is getting diseased constantly).

But I’ve never looked into clique - can someone give me a brief summary of what it adds to Grid? Currently I’ll click on the Grid box to target a player and then use my hotkey to cast the heal/dispell on them.