World of Warcraft General Discussion

My 80 druid is still alliance for now–I just server changed. I will be paying the $30 to switch factions this week, though. That way I’ll have two high level druids. One, the 80, will be tank and cat dual-specced (though I need to run all the NR reg dungeons to get geared up so I can run heroics) and one, the presently level 71, is Boomkin and Resto dual-specced. It was Resto/cat specced up to this point, but given the goal of some of the others in BDL to get a 10-man group going and the fact I’ve heard them mention we needed more ranged DPS, I figured having a chicken (which is already outputting about 700 DPS in BC non-heroics at level 70) would serve the guild well. The 71 horde druid is in the BDL as Rahuul, btw.

Thanks, and it’s ok. I have my laptop at least, and it turns out the only thing that pooped out on the new computer was my solid state drive which had the windows install on it. I had fortunately installed WOW and my steam games to another hard drive instead. So I just popped in an old 250GB 7200RPM hard drive in to replace the windows drive and reinstalled. Went home to the parents this weekend (though I played on my laptop last night while they watched the Hurt Locker) but I’ll finish re-setting up Windows when I get back.

In other news, I dinged on Explorer of NR last night thanks to the cold weather flying, maxed out my herbalism score in the process, got 4 Frost Lotus to sell, and dinged on all the Elders of NR. Now I just need to powerlevel to 77 this week so I can ding on the rest of the Dungeon Elders and hopefully try to find a group killing OMEN and I’ll be done with the holiday achievements.

And to add onto my list of achievements this weekend, Guardian of Cenarius! I feel like a proper druid now! :smiley:

About the only thing I have left that I really want to do in classic Azeroth before Cataclysm hits is Loremaster, and that should be cake at this point.

Hey Y’all:)

Can someone PLEASE tell me how to permanently disable all of that window so that only I can access it and not have to look at all that writing on the left-hand side of my screen?

It’s distracting and gettin’ on my last nerve with the teade, trade, trade, etc. all the way down…

Thanks

Q

Grats Boss! :slight_smile:

Hey, all. For those who missed me a few pages upthread, my story is casual WoW player leaves the game pre-expansions, a few years later finally talks his wife into playing with him, and heads back into the game.

We’ve got night elves on Maiev, (which by the way, is PVP, and a Horde feeding ground. The difference in population and skill is pathetic) and we’re up to lvl 30. My question is… where should we be questing right now? We just finished the quests in Duskwood and had a successful Stockades run, and headed into Stranglethorn… and died about a dozen times each in 45 minutes or so. Where should we be? Arathi?

Grrr, frustrated.

Not sure what you mean by disabling all of your windows, Quasi. The way to change settings for your chat windows is to right-click on the “General” tab (I assume it’s still named that since you haven’t changed these settings) and then go to “Settings.” Then, if you want to disable Trade or General spam, you can go to Global Channels and un-check the boxes next to the channels you don’t want displayed. Usually, I create a new chat window (also by right-clicking the “General” tab) with those channels displayed there, so that I can read them if I have the masochistic urge to do so. Hope that helps.

Yes, Stranglethorn on PvP servers is pretty brutal. Arathi is somewhere where you can level, but you can also go to Ashenvale and finish up the higher quests there, leading you to Thousand Needles and then Tanaris. There are a lot of leveling guides out there, even if you just Google “leveling guide WoW,” you should find a few that are helpful. Regardless, if you’re at a faction disadvantage, more than likely you will be griefed at some point, but with two of you together, it shouldn’t be as big of a deal as long as you avoid zones like Stranglethorn or The Barrens. Good luck!

Also, how in the world did you convince your wife to play with you? My ladyfriend would rather stick hot pokers in her eyes.

In my case, I’m a woman and got my husband to play. :smiley: He was averse from it when I was playing EverQuest, but he liked playing Neverwinter Nights multiplayer online with an online friend of mine. From there we graduated to City of Heroes, and then on to WoW.

Regarding getting weapon skills to 400 - can that last point take a very long time indeed? I dinged 80 two weeks ago and have spent most of that time with an axe in my hand and my skill is only 399.

Grats to all.

Just downloaded Bartender. Up to level 33 now, and I have more abilities than I can fit on one bar, so I took the plunge.

One thing, I just went to Fray Island and picked up Berserker stance. How do I add this to the stance bar? Or will it happen automatically the next time I log on?

Also is low 30s a good time for Prot warriors?

Recently I took down a lvl 32 elite mob, at lvl 29
took down 3 lvl 36 mobs at once at lvl 33

Is this a purple patch for Warriors? Maybe I just have good gear for my level? My armor score is such that I don’t take 40% of incoming damage.

I was a grrl gamer long before my husband picked up a bag of dice - my dad got me started doing napoleanic war sand table battles when I was about 4. At the time, I was more or less playing with dolls while he taught me strategy when he visited home on leave and weekends. We also watched war movies together [back in the 60s they showed a lot of the war movies shot in the 30s and 40s as they were in the rental to tv libraries. A lot of marines storming guadalcanal and older stuff like the 3 musketeers from the 30s, and Cyrano de Bergerac, stuff like that that shows 2 armies charging at each other like idiots] and I started reading random books from the bookshelves he had on tactics and history. I was also reading Tolkien =) THen we were at a gen con, and some guy had a game that he was getting people to try out that was fantasy and I got hooked and more or less stopped doing earther wargaming when I could get others to play D&D.

Eve Online isnt so much role playing as small and medium unit tactics and applied logistics =) Military schools should work it into their curriculums … :smiley:

But I got mrAru into online gaming with me, starting back with Everquest, moving to Warcrack and now playing Eve Online.

Hmmm…it should automatically add itself to your stance bar. Presumably you’ve enabled the stance bar in Bartender?

One groovy thing about stances, which I believe is the same as how my druid forms work - when you change stance, you get a fresh new bar which you can put actions specific to that stance on. I think it uses bars 7, 8 and 9 or something like that, depending on how many different stances/forms you have, but just puts them in the place of Bar 1 so you don’t really notice. I’m pretty sure there’s a tab for stances in the Bartender options where you can specify exactly how it works.

So when I’m in tree form, hitting 1 does a Lifebloom. But when I’m in owl form, hitting 1 does a Moonfire. Dinky!

Warning! Long post ahead!

Grats on finishing the rep grind!

Oh right! I know you :slight_smile: Like I said, I’m really bad about connecting Doper names and toon names. I still get Bosstone and Mister Rik mixed up in game sometimes (but don’t tell them).

Grats! You’ve been busy.

Maybe Thousand Needles or Arathi Highland. The problem with Stranglethorn, in addition to being a PvP gankfest, is that the level range througout goes from 30 to high 40’s – so it’s easy to accidentally get in over your head if you’re in the low 30’s. The other zones are a little more focused level-wise, and usually less populated.

In my experience, it took 20-25 minutes of combat to get from 399 to 400. That was with a fast weapon (dagger). If you have a very slow 2H weapon I guess it would take longer.
Okay, Holy Paladin update: Since Friday I’ve run Ragefire Chasm, Wailing Caverns, Deadmines and Shadowfang Keep (the first two several times). Those plus questing have allowed me to reach level 21 (yay free mount!).

Observations:
At levels 15-18, mana while healing was a serious issue. I only had one healing spell (Holy Light), and if I had to spam it I would go oom on many fights. Two things happened that got me over the hump: first, I started using Judgment of Wisdom on mobs and autoattacking them between heals, which generates some mana. Plus I’ve put points in talents that increase my Intelligence and give me back mana on critical heals, which also have helped.

The biggest challenge is finding gear. Other than my BoA chest and shoulders, I haven’t found any mail armor with caster stats (Int or SP primarily). Which I guess makes sense, since there aren’t any pre-40 casters who wear mail except Holy pallies. I’m wearing several pieces of cloth and some leather. The problem is I feel terrible about rolling Need on cloth gear when there are clothies in the party (which there usually are). Also, the cloth gear is not convenient when I’m questing and actually getting hit.

So my new gear strategy is: keep a mail set with strength/stam for questing (when mana is not an issue) and a cloth/leather/mail caster set for dungeons, when hopefully I’m not getting hit much. And hope that plate/mail caster gear becomes available at 40.

Also: I really hate Wailing Caverns. A 12-second sleep is an eternity when you’re healing, and it seems like half the mobs there love to cast it on me.

So my baby pally dinged 58 and headed to Outlands, and has now run Ramparts about 3 times. And wow, is there ever a steep idiocy gradient between the mid 50s in Azeroth and the late 50s/early 60s in Outlands; first run was quite smooth; newbie tank but he handled himself well (my plan was to DPS until I was at least level 60 and had some Outlands-quality gear).

Second run, healer hits the ground and announces MANA MANA several times in party chat. DK tank attacks immediately and gets stomped by 3 elite Orcs while the healer is drinking. I throw on my shield and turn on Righteous Fury and manage to stay alive as we knock out the first pull. Healer says “see I told you I was out of mana”, then res’s the DK - he is once again showing zero blue in his mana bar. Says “okay, let me regain mana again.” Naturally the DK runs straight in again; this time I manage to keep him alive by zapping him with Holy Light between hitting things with judgments to regen my pathetic mana pool; healer comes on line and keeps DK alive. Does DK then pause? No sir he does not, pulls another 5 orcs, dies as the healer goes oom, and then the healer bites it. Somehow I and the 2 dps (warlock and mage I think) manage to finish off the rest of the pack, I res the healer, tank drops out. I say “fuck it,” and switch to my tank spec; the rest of the run goes smoothly.

Next run. I overpull early and die; healer comes back through a soulstone and res’s everyone; we all sit around drinking and recasting buffs, etc; finally, I say “ready?”; a couple DPS jump up and down and say “y”; no word from the healer, but I’ve been pacing around and at least the healer is changing position. I say “screw it” and go pull the next group, accidentally getting a pat in the bargain. I notice my health is going down fast; lay hands on myself; still getting pounded as I try to spam holy lights on myself; turns out the healer HAD ME ON FOLLOW. Nice. We wipe; healer goes linkdead; we vote to kick him; all but 1 dps drop out; with basically a whole new party we run through it without a hitch.

So, yeah, quality idiocy; and it isn’t all the death knights.

Had a pally tank yesterday in a Gundrak random (Bloodlust battle group) called “Afkutank”. That should have been a sign.

At one point the pally wasn’t moving, for no apparent reason, and no “gotta afk” or “sec” messages. The very well-geared rogue got honked off and said, “heal me” and went up to kill a couple mobs. Tank got peeved and said something about waiting. Turns out she was talking to someone else, that’s why she was standing still. The two of them got into a bitch fest about the other one sucking and them being uber, but the tank started stepping out of combat and refusing to tank, so my opinion went from “STFU the both of you” to “OK tank, you’re annoying.” This became especially true when she said she didn’t care about what we thought of her, she was just going to use us to get her free frost emblems for the day.

So here we were at the last boss, 5 minutes to go before we can kick her from the group because we blasted through the rest of the instance. We go down the steps and wait for time to run out. She decides screw it, she is going to start off the last boss and avoid being kicked. Except that when you start it, a little gate pops up at the top of the steps. The mage got locked in with her, so he did die when she intentionally kited the boss on top of him. She even tried to stone out but failed on her timing and got interrupted. She dies, boss resets, gate opens. We rez the mage and wait out the short remaining period, then kick her and finish the boss with just the four of us, rogue tanking.

Don’t do that. A lot of people buy Frost Lotus one at a time. I’d list it in stacks no larger than five. Personally, if I were selling mine instead of using it, I’d be putting up five at a time in stacks of one.

Do you have the Gatherer addon? You can get a database for it that will put every single node on your map, which makes it really easy to find herbs, especially if you use the HUD.

If you’re getting attacked while farming, you’re looking in the wrong places. I got my World Explorer just after dinging 73, IIRC, which means most of the time I was running around Northrend (on foot, mind you, well, horseback at least–this was on my main and before the Heirloom flying book came out) I was 72. I got a metric crapload of herbs while I was doing this. So a 78 with a flyer should have no problem at all.

I’m not sure where it’s at right now, but prior to the new FL drop rate, the flask mats were worth more than the flasks themselves. I wouldn’t be surprised if that trend continues.

The spice can actually sell for a decent amount, depending on your server. Plus, you probably cook your own buff foods. :smiley: Have you tried cooking with the hat on yet? It’s holyshitblindinglyfast. (I recommend the Iron Chef addon, which equips your Chef’s Hat and switches your title to Chef whenever you open your Cooking profession window, then swaps everything back when you close it.)

I love you. Thank you for being part of the 1% of the WoW population who understands that that’s how it’s supposed to work.

Psh, I’d have traded you my Guardian of Cenarius for your raven mount. :smiley:

And Loremaster is a cakewalk… in the sense that the quests will be easy. But it’s time consuming. Very, *very *time consuming.

What I do is create a separate, filtered chat channel. I think I might have helped you set one of these up before… Take a look at your chat window and see if there are other tabs at the top. If there are, try looking for one that’s called something like “Filter.” If you click that, it should take you to a chat window that won’t show Trade.

Let me know if you don’t have any other chat tabs, and when I get home, I’ll check on my own interface exactly how to do it (I forget some of the option names) and then send you detailed instructions.

Get a new ladyfriend? :smiley:

I started playing when my boyfriend at the time suggested I play on his account during the day while he was at work when I was unemployed. I’d avoided the game before that, though I knew quite a few people who played it, because I knew I didn’t have the time to spare in college, when it came out. But I’ve always been a gamer, so.

Have you tried setting her up with her own account through Recruit a Friend? It will work best if you have two computers in your home (preferably in the same room) if you live together; if you don’t, but you both have microphones and some kind of voice chat program, that would work, too. But being close by so you can lean over her shoulder and explain things will probably work best for getting her into the game if she’s not a big gamer to begin with.

I specifically mentioned RaF because it comes with some really nice features: namely, the XP bonus and the summoning feature. These two are godly. (It also saves you some cash, since you get bonus playtime if she converts to a full account, and you get a mount if she pays for two months of playtime after that.)

Yes. 399->400 can take a ridiculously high number of hits. If you can, try to get your Int up through gear and buffs (use a scroll if you can’t find a Mage to buff you). Int used to speed up the rate at which you leveled your weapon skills; that information was removed from tooltips, but experimentation has suggested that it still affects it.

Other suggestions:
1.) Go for as much Haste as possible.
2.) Use a high-speed and low-damage weapon. Something to look for is a white item sold by a vendor: you can find them in capital cities and/or lowbie starting areas.

You don’t need Bartender to get more bars: it just makes them more customizable. If you want to enable them in your default interface, go to Options (Esc) > Interface > Action Bars. (I think that’s the path, anyway.) Then check all of them, both of the bottom ones and both of the ones on the right-hand side.

These days, I think pretty much any level is a good level for Prot Wars. :smiley: We might not kill as quickly as a DPS spec, but we sure can take a hit.

Something to be aware of: Armor only affects physical damage. So while you’ll shave 40% off anything physical, magic attacks will punch right through that armor.

I got put in WC on my new Shammy yesterday. At 17. I.e., one level before I got my freakin’ Tremor Totem. :smack::smack::smack: At least I was familiar with the place from running it fifty billion times to pick up gear for my other Shammy (the twink), so I was able to lead the group to every boss.

You can access 10 regular action bars* in Bartender. By my count, you can only access 6 through the default interface (2 normal, 2 above them, 2 to the right side). The extra 4 bars may very well be there without Bartender, but I have no idea how you’d bring them up without some sort of bar add-on.
*“Regular” as opposed to bag bar, micromenu, stance bar, vehicle bar, pet bar, etc.

Just some stuff

  1. I think I may have downloaded too much “curse” crap, because some of that stuff just seems superfluous (bean counter, auctioneer, auctionator [which one do I really need?] and gets in the way. What’s the absolute most imporatnt add-ons I need?

  2. SFG, I’ll check that out when I get home, but this morning I tried hovering over the chat window to make those tabs appear and click on general, but didn’t see the tabs.

Also, do I NEED that thing on the side where I am told, Wolkie enters bood rage, Skirmisher strikes back., Wolkie shits himself, etc.?

  1. Forgot to “arrow-up” for my cross bow! I went to buy some food and accidentally clicked on the weapons/ammo guy standing next to my vendor and saw that I’ve been using something called (what?) “thin projectiles”, and noticed I could buy some arrows with a stronger hit rating called Black Hawks, so I sold back my 400 projectile arrows and bought those instead. Haven’t used them yet.

  2. 5% away from level 67 (been away with the squitters and a fever, so haven’t felt like playing)

  3. What’s a grrl?

Thanks

Q

Simple rule of thumb: If it’s a druid, it ain’t me. Just … can’t … grok … druids :smiley:

Sorry, what I meant was that I just like to have a full stack’s worth before I sell. That way, regardless of the actual stack size I use when selling, I can have a better idea of how much incoming gold to expect. That said, on Saturday I did go ahead and ship everything I had (Frost Lotus, Arctic Furs, and various other herbs and skins) off to Chimtahna, who has become Keliraeda’s bank alt, and yesterday Chim pulled about 1000g out of the mailbox to send back to Keli. That was enough to let Keli train Artisan Riding and buy a swift flying mount without being left almost broke :smiley:

Yeah, I’ve had that for ages. It’s only been the Frost Lotus and Lichbloom in Icecrown that are getting me attacked; not really having any trouble with the lesser herbs in other zones (aside from the way they don’t seem to spawn that frequently). So I can see where everything is, but in Icecrown at least, where everything is also happens to be where the mobs are. OTOH, I haven’t explored all of Icecrown yet - the only reason Keli’s been there anyway is the Argent Tournament, doing the Valiant dailies. As far as her questing, she’s still in Zul’Drak. Even when she hits 80 (just dinged 79 yesterday or the day before) I’m going to finish questing through every zone so that I can make sure I hit all the important quest lines/get in with all the necessary factions. So she hasn’t quested in Sholazar or Storm Peaks yet. Also, slow flying has just been too painful for me to endure flying around just to hunt herbs, so things should get better now that she has fast flying :slight_smile:

I took Eilyssana, my main, back to Outland and banged out the achievements for Nagrand, Terokkar, and Shadowmoon Valley over the last few days, so all I need now are Blade’s Edge and Netherstorm for Loremaster of Outland. And she’s sitting at 2616/3000 quests toward The Seeker title. Still has quite a way to go for Loremaster of Kalimdor, though :frowning:

I’m starting to lean toward trying to finish up Loremaster and then putting Eilyssana “on hold” for a while, at least until Cataclysm comes out. All she really does these days is Argent Tournament and other Icecrown dailies, and it’s starting to get boring. She’s sent heirloom items to my warrior, my mage, and my hunter. My belf pally, Keliraeda, is getting close to 80, my warrior just dinged 72, and my mage just hit 64, and I’m starting to want to spend more time on them. And, well, Eilyssana at this point has pretty much the best gear she can obtain without running instances …

Yeah, I’m just weird that way. I don’t care about the “endgame”, mainly because it requires grouping. I don’t like grouping, outside of occasionally teaming up briefly with one or two other people when necessary. Even in “real life”, going out in groups is a miserable experience for me. Maybe I need some psychoactive medication in my big intestine, or something :frowning: I’m just more interested in the “ORPG” part than the “MM” part. I’ve seen people say, “Why don’t you just play a single-player game, then?” and my answer is, “Single-player games don’t have the scope of an MMO.” I love the non-linear aspect, and the ability to explore almost endlessly. I’m all about the journey, not the destination, I guess.

That said, I did group up my warrior, Castariora, with my lvl 80 paladin friend the other day to knock out that Last Rites quest in BT, so she could get that sweet 2h axe reward. Yesterday she tooled on over and did all those murloc quests and also picked up the 50-clam polearm.

From what I can tell, the remaining four bars are normally reserved for things like warrior stances and druid shapeshifted forms. I discovered this because on my warrior, when she was low level, I had left those “extra” bars in the middle of my screen but hidden, since I wasn’t using them. Then she learned new stances, and when I started adding the relevant abilities to the relevant toolbars in the normal location, the icons were duplicated on those bars in the middle of the screen.

Oh, forgot to mention that almost all of Eilyssana’s special cloth (Spellweave and Ebonweave) auctions sold yesterday, so she got a nice chunk of change in her mailbox too :slight_smile:

The other ones are all under your default action bar, I thought. If you take a look at it, you’ll see there are arrows to the immediate right of the bar to select which bar to use. Some classes will have fewer ones available, e.g. Warriors, who use some of them up as stance bars. But I think everyone will have a total of 10. IIRC, you can select a specific action bar by hitting Shift + that number, and I think Shift + scroll wheel will also move it up or down. By default, I think they’re numbered 1 thru 6, but those classes who’re missing bars will skip numbers.

I could be wrong, though, since I usually don’t use more than my default quickbar. Or it could be how things were when I started playing and it’s since changed.

Can you give me a list of everything? Go into your Addon folder and tell me what you all have there. Probably, you’ll just want to stick with QuestHelper and maybe one or two others.

I’ll send you a detailed explanation of how to make a filtered tab when I get home, then!

That sounds like your combat log. Is it in the same place as your chat log? Or is it text that’s showing up more in the middle of your screen?

Woo for closing in on 67, :frowning: and :eek: on the being sick.

Like a girl, but tougher. :smiley: See “riot grrl.”

It’s your $15 a month–you get to decide how you want to play. :smiley: Could be you just haven’t found the right people to group with yet, though. Speaking of single player RPGs, have you tried Dragon Age? I keep meaning to pick it up, since I’ve heard blindingly awesome things, but I haven’t wanted to take the time away from WoW. There’s an expansion about to come out for it, too.