World of Warcraft General Discussion

I take no joy in running around like chicken with its head cut off, getting to eggs 1/4 second after someone else already got to them. I’d much rather stand in one place (preferably in easy reach of two different spawn points) and pluck them like plums. The other way is all panic and frustration to me. And given that my ultimate goal is not to play games with the holiday achievements, but rather to gain a Tacky Magenta Proto-Drake, I don’t really need the frustration.

Frankly, I wish you could pvp your own faction when they horn in on your camping spot…

Well it is supposed to be an egg hunt, not an egg stand-there-and-wait-for-it-to-be-handed-to-you-with-no-effort-on-your-part.

OTOH, it’s clear that Blizzard did not take to heart the heavy criticism they received for this last year. Doesn’t seem to me that it would be all that hard to make the things spawn truly randomly, and in a wider area. I mean, they managed it with the turkeys for Pilgrim’s Bounty.

That would be Xevozz’s fault. A tank who stands still while tanking Xevozz is also known as a “dead tank”, as I learned the hard way while tanking VH; if Xev is allowed to sit around next to his little glowy ball things, he hits waaaay too hard for anyone to heal through or for that matter live through.

Weird. This is the first year I did Noblegarden, and I found running around trying to get the eggs to be entertaining. Even when I got beat to the eggs…yeah, okay, I got kind of frustrated (especially when I clicked on one and got ‘This object is busy’ because there was a little bastard pink bunny right there) but not very much. I just let it go and moved on. Got the Noblegarden meta in like 3 hours, too, so it’s not like I suffered very much for running. Once I understood where the spawn points were in the village I’d picked, I didn’t run around like crazy, but instead sketched out a consistent path that took me to a lot of the egg points.

I tried camping for a few minutes, and I never saw an egg spawn at the spot I’d picked. There were at least two and I think three spawn points near where I stood, too. Considering I wound up collecting something like 200-250 eggs over the course of the day, I think spawncamping would have gotten really boring, really fast, especially since you wouldn’t be able to look away! A second or two of inattention and bam, someone swoops in and yoinks the egg out from under you. You can’t look away when running around, but at least you’re doing something.

I agree that a lot of holiday achievements can be really tiresome; Lunar Festival is interminable, for instance. But it seems weird to insist on not making it fun when it has the capacity to be.

Last year, I ran around half the time and found a good camp spot for the other half while I slogged through a book. This year, I found sprinting around in bunny form a bit more entertaining, but I wasn’t really going for the meta anyway – I just wanted the pet for my alts.

Dusted off my level 30 hunter after over a year of neglect – but this time, with brand new heirloom shoulders, chest, and gun. He was only a sliver into 30 when I started playing today and decided to get back into the swing of things by queuing up for Warsong Gulch and shooting gnomes in the face :slight_smile: I’d forgotten that they added experience gains for BGs, and as it was WSG holiday weekend, I got bonus experience for each match. After 5 WSG matches (all wins) and one AB victory (5-cap whee), he’s 3/4 of the way through 33! The first bonus exp match of the day netted over half his exp bar, with the rest around 1/3 or so. Crazy experience for BGs now – I’m tempted to just BG him to Outland instead of slogging through the classic quests again for the umpteenth time.

Now I just have to go grind some critters so my ghost kitty can catch up to me in levels.

That heirloom Dwarven Hand Cannon is amazing – even though I was at the bottom of my bracket, I was topping the scoreboard in damage and kills. This is without stats on my melee weapons! I had Spring Flowers equipped so I could put bunny ears on my enemies as I was killing them.

How in the phuck do you do one and get it to stay???

I’m putting the lower (they’re all in their teens and 20’s) levels gold and stuff they can use in there , or if not, sell, but I can’t get the message to appear correctly, and they haven’t taken ANYTHING!!! I have 8 in my guild (only 2 left me), but they’re all gonna leave if I’m not communicating with 'em.

Log/Accept. In which order? And why don’t I see it when I first log in. Do THEY see it? How am I supposed to know if it doesn’t appear for me?

I keep trying to cancel the previous message which also does not appear

Can someone just give me a step by step, that I can write on a sticky note and tape it to my screem? (pretty soon, I’m gonna have so many, I won’t able to SEE the dam screen! :))

Thanks

Neurotic Quasi:)

You should be able to just click in the box where it says “Guild Message Of The Day”, and a box will pop up where you can enter your message. Then click “Accept”.

Do you mean people aren’t taking anything from the bank? If so, that’s because you specifically need to authorize them to do so. The guild settings automatically give new members the rank of “Initiate”, and until you click the boxes to give people access, nobody but you can take stuff out of the bank. It’s done this way so that it’s less likely somebody will steal everything. For now, leave the Initiate rank as it is - you want to make sure you can trust people before you give them full access.

In your Guild window (type “O” and then click on the “Guild” tab in the window that appears).

Click on the arrow button next to “Player Status”. This will show you everybody’s rank. It should show you as “Guild Leader” (or whatever the default leader rank is called), and everybody else as “Initiate”.

Now, click on the “Guild Control” button. This will open a new window where you can set what each rank is allowed to do. It will look like this. If it’s not showing Guild Leader (or whatever your rank is) at the top, select your rank from the dropdown menu at the top of the box, where it says “Select guild rank to modify”. I think all those checkboxes will be automatically checked, but if they’re not, go ahead and check all of them. This lets you, as the Leader, do everything. The boxes at the bottom are grayed out - they deal with bank access, and since as Leader you have full access, you don’t want to change any of those.

Now, from the dropdown menu, select “Initiate”. It will look like this. I recommend leaving it just like it is for now. Initiates/brand new members can listen and talk in guild chat, but that’s all.

Select “Member” from the dropdown menu. Now you’ll see this. Check the box labeled “Gold” after the word “Withdraw”. In the box where it says “Max Gold/Day”, enter a small amount, like 10. This will allow people with the Member rank to withdraw up to 10 gold per day. Then down where it says “Guild Bank Tab”, check “View Tab” and “Deposit Items”. This will let Members see what’s in the bank and deposit items in the bank. If you want to let them take items out of the bank, put a number in the box labeled “Withdraw Items (stacks/day)”. I recommend just putting a “1” in there for now. If a member wants more than one item (or stack of items, for things like potions), they’ll have to ask you, and you can take it out of the bank yourself and mail it to them.

Now, when you decide you trust somebody and want to let them take things out of the bank, just click on their name in the guild window. A little box will open on the side, and you’ll see their rank, and an up/down arrow next to their current rank. Click the “up” arrow to promote them from “Initiate” to “Member”. Now they can do the things you allowed Members to do in the step above.

If you want to practice, try promoting my toon “Badlilsister”, or jayjay’s toon, since you know you can trust us not to steal everything :slight_smile:

Noblegarden: last year I was a camper, and I easily collected enough eggs to do whatever I need for the meta-achievement. I probably won’t bother with the holiday this time around, though.

On Friday I got to do ICC10 again, but with a different PUG group than in previous weeks. Unfortunately this group did not have a very good single-target healer, so I was pressed into service. We were fine through the first few bosses and the gunship battle, but when we got to Saurfang, the other (raid) healer and I just couldn’t keep the tank(s) and the marked player alive: I could focus heals on just the tank, or just the marked player, but not both, because my single-target heals are just too slow. Since I had already acquired Midnight Sun in the Gunship Battle, I volunteered to drop group so they could pick up a pally.

Other than that, I didn’t really get to play much this weekend (Easter you know). Looking forward to the BDL raid tonight.

My husband and I did Noblegarden last year on one of our characters. This year I think maybe I’ll just try for the bunny pets for my others and forget about it otherwise. (They’re fun to bring out during raids and watch the rabbits try to outbreed the local monster population. Plus random “poing!” sounds are funny.)

Two annoying tanks from randoms yesterday:

  1. The prot pally who told the disc priest to not use Power Word: Shield on him because, “I need to get mana somehow.” The priest’s response was, rightly, “…” “No, I will not stop shielding you.” Divine Plea ftw, thanks.

  2. The not-quite-4k-gear DK in Heroic Pit of Saron who after two fights asked sarcastically, “Are any of you DPS spec’d?!” STFU, thanks. (He was from Tichondrius, which in our group of servers has gotten a rep of being full of arrogant jerks - way to prove the stereotype.) We get to the first boss, and he asks, “tank and spank?” Oh god. He hadn’t been there before, at all. :smack: Of course he screws up - we did a quick explanation, but he doesn’t pull the boss away from the soul that pops (and the rogue with it on him didn’t back off since he was new too), so when the soul gets eaten he says “OMG dps!” and we say, “the soul heals him!” Grr. So we explain at the last boss too, only the rogue dies (yay for standing in purple), and the rogue is the only one to get dungeon achievements. Not the DK. So I say, “So-and-so, you didn’t get the achievement? What happened?” He acted confused. Me, I suspect he bought the char or had someone PL it, and had already completed the dungeon.

Oh, and my not-so-hot-geared boomkin had the most damage, the most DPS (nearly 4k), and frankly the other non-newb DPS did pretty well too. The rogue wasn’t as high up but he was about as geared as the tank.

Had a tank try to grief my random pug the other day - we were in UP, and he dropped group just as Skadi hit the ground. My clothie ass (my Spriest) died because he was backed into a corner when Skadi whirlwinded, but the other 2 dps and the heals managed to take him down. So there, random griefer!

In other news, spent way too much time getting my Spriest up to speed; he’s now Naxx-ready and more, with 4 T9s and 200s, about half of them purple, in every other slot but wand and off-hand.

I had my first experience yesterday with a druid healer getting most of the way through An’Kahet (I think) with a fishing pole equipped …

Also did Heroic Oculus again yesterday. I expected “easy” after it went so smoothly the first time I ran it. But this time there were multiple people wanting to try for the achievement for beating Eregos (?) with no red drakes … and we wiped over and over and over before finally saying “screw it”.

After Oculus came Azjol’Nerub, and I died while fighting the only boss I still needed for that dungeon achievement … and thanks to all the wipes on Oculus I reflexively hit “Release” instead of waiting for a rez, and ended up not getting credit for that boss :mad:

I forgot how much I hate pink turbo ninja bunnies.

I had already finished Noblegarden last year on my mage main, but my DK only needs this and Children’s Week to get his drake, so I slogged through egg hunting on him. I found a nice spot to camp in Falconwing Square where I could easily reach four spawns–that wasn’t bad for awhile. But it’s so frustrating to scope out an egg and have some stupid turbo ninja bunny zip up and snarf it from right under your nose! I think I was the only egg hunter who actively hates being a bunny and clicked off the “buff” every time I got it. Everybody else was zipping around like mad things. Got all my eggs and items, though–all I have left to do is run around and finish the “go here and do this” achievements, and I’m home free.

In other news, my pally tank (you know, the one with formerly sad gear whom I was asking for tanking advice for a couple of weeks ago?) successfully tanked ICC10 up through Putricide. It was great. Pally tanking is so much easier and less stressful than DK tanking. I enjoy both, but I actually like tanking heroics on the pally, while I won’t even do it on the DK. Got him to 450 JC, too, so now all I have to do is level his blacksmithing up high enough that he can socket his gloves and bracers and he’ll be pretty much where I want him to be.

Got the shield from Gunship, so no more farming normal Halls of Reflection with three other pallies who all want that shield too. Thank goodness!

Actually, being in bunny shape, especially in Falconwing Square, makes it a lot easier to spot many of the eggs, thanks to the angle.

Yeah, but if you’re camping, bunny is a disadvantage, since your field of view shrinks drastically.

Yes, there’s a package they offer that’s, like, some emblems and gold, IIRC. Which is fine if it’s a low-level character or a fresh 80, but if it’s a max-level character you’ve put any time into at all, you’re much better off just waiting the extra time for them to do a full restore.

Nope. You can’t get credit for any jousting unless you have the associated quest in your logs an incomplete.

Scroll of Resurrection is the old program. I can’t get here from work, but I think this is the site for it–it’s probably still active.

<Burning Dog Legion> is Horde-side on Cairne. It’s open to everybody–there are some people who are lurkers, and I think a couple who aren’t on the SDMB at all.

On the servers I play on, tanks have instant queues, healers wait anywhere from a few minutes up to as long as DPS, and DPS usually have to wait at least 5 minutes but not often longer than 30, with the wait times I’ve experienced being generally in the 10 to 20 minute range.

As for dungeon length, it depends on how geared your group is. My main is a very well geared tank, so I can set a fast pace for my runs–they’re usually done around the time the random dungeon debuff is wearing off (~15 minutes). If you get pulled into a partial run, you could be in and out in less than five minutes. I’d say at the outside, you’d be looking at 30 to 45 minutes. I’d consider an hour to be a *very *long run for a level 80.

This is all for max-level characters, by the way. Things will vary for lower levels, especially the lengths of the dungeons. Some of those old ones can drag on forever (Mara and BRD, I’m looking at you). On the plus side, you at least know that if things take too long and you have to leave, the group will be able to requeue to replace you–and if you’re a DPS, they’ll have someone new in just a few seconds.

They have random Battleground queues now, too. And endgame raiding is designed to be accessable by everyone; with each new tier, the previous tier’s badge gear is made available to all by bumping all badge drops up to that tier (including from Heroic dungeons). This means that anybody can hit 80, spend some time grinding Heroics, and be ready to hop into the latest content, at least from a gear perspective.

What you’re missing out on, I’m guessing, is raiding. Destro is probably the best *raiding *DPS spec. When you’re running five-mans, though, it’s not nearly the same thing, so it’s entirely possible to get better DPS and better utility out of another spec.

They changed the forum names for April Fool’s Day. :smiley: The Game Room became The Lame Room.

Where were you standing? IIRC, the drakes have conal AOE in front of them (fire) that hits pretty hard. Once the tank goes down, of course, they’ll go after everyone else pretty quickly.

One way to tell if someone is MC’d or an, um, evil mirror image? of themself is to play with enemy health plates enabled, and then display class colors in nameplates. In OK, you’ll see your “groupmates’” names in red–i.e., they’re mobs–not color-coded by class, as they would be if they got MC’d.

Yes. They can both be a huge pain, either in terms of difficulty, frustration, or time. (E.g., in AN, there are trash mobs in the early packs that will become untankable if you don’t kill them fast enough, and in OK, there are trash mobs in the early packs that will hit your tank really hard–or kill another player–if you don’t interrupt their casts.)

He summons orbs, so he needs to be kited along the top or everyone dies.

Last year, I spent god-knows-how-long running in interminable circles around the town on Azuremyst so I could get the however-100-many eggs I needed for all my achievements. It was kind of fun, but also kind of terrible. I certainly had every single spawn point memorized by the end, so I could just glance at them as I ran by.

You can get a purple wand from Anub, the last boss in Heroic AN – although good luck with that, it never seemed to drop for me. You’re better off with the Emblem of Triumph (?) wand, which I eventually settled for even though it had +hit. I have a better one now but I think I got it from ToC10 - ah, here it is: Scepter of Imprisoned Souls.

There’s a very good off-hand that drops off the Lich King in Heroic HoR, if you feel like farming for it: Shriveled Heart.

I was standing sort of behind and to one side of the drake when I went down; the tank went down immediately after I did.

Those drakes also have a “knock you into the air and send you backwards” attack; that can send you into another drake or handler (or both) if you’re not careful about how you clear the room.

Dammit, whooshed again! :smack:

I’d also have fallen for the “shoe’s untied” thing :smack:

Wondering if this is a “sign”?;):frowning:

You know what they say, right? “I have Alzheimer’s but at least I don’t have Alzheimer’s.”?

SHIT!

Quasi