If you’re atleast level 12, Wing Clip and run. If you’re atleast level 20, you can also use Disengage after Wing Clipping, or you can just drop down a Freezing Trap.
Yeah, imagine that, you can put a bag into a bag slot, and then you can put items into the bag that is in the bag slot. It’s almost as if it was designed that way.
Disengage and use your speed debuff arrow/bullet. (don’t know what you have). Theres also an ice slick trap that doesn’t freeze your attacker but lays down a slick that slows their movement.
Now that was fun! Seriously, even though I died, it was fun.
Using my lvl 28 hunter I was hunting sons & daughters of Cenarus for a quest. I had little idea that the sons had treant pets so when I saw one I was observing him from a distance as he approached me. I was ready to send my pet in when I saw a hunters mark on me. I thought maybe my prey had done it, though I had never seen an npc do that. So I attacked, but then realized I was under attack by two alliance players, one of which was a hunter. It only took a few seconds for me to buy it.
So I ghost back to my corpse and see them at a distance. I should have came up with a plan, but I could see their level range. (I thought you couldn’t see other factions levels, but I could here). The hunter was lvl 26, the friend, a hunter was 19. I attacked thinking I could finishj them off fast if I surprised them, but another alliance player that I didn’t see jumped in and it was over again. 
I rez again. I didn’t see my foes so I went on with my quest. A blood elf paladin was nearby and I saw the hunters mark on him. Hwe was lvl 26 but he apparently saw the alliance player and killed him so fast I didn’t see it. He then warned me about him, but I told him I was on the lookout for him. A few minutes later the hunters mark lands on him again. He ran off to kill the alliance guy (i was engaged in a fight with an npc.) We both then hurried up and killed our quotas for the quest…and our friend returned, but this time was running away from us. Pally chases him down,. I hit him with my concussive shot slowing his run speed and pally killed him. We both laughed at the corpse and split up to go our ways. I suppose the alliance player was stupid to keep tracking us once his friends had left, but it was fun. If he had killed us, or just me, it was all in fair play.
Because I’ll admit, if i had seen an easy target like i was at first I would have done the same. 
Funny, isn’t it? The production professions aren’t profitable, but you can make an asston of money selling materials to people who, for some reason, are choosing to work up production professions.
Of course, I shouldn’t talk. I’m balancing Mining and Jewelcrafting right now. There’s been more than a couple times where I’ve used 10g worth of materials to make some throwaway items in order to get to the next recipe. :smack: It is not a cheap profession.
I wonder why the ore sells for so much. Wouldn’t you have to smelt it to make anything useful? But if you can smelt it you can mine it…can’t you?
I was wondering also…does WoW have events? CoX has the Rikti Invasions and the Zombie Apocalypse stuff…zone wide things that happen and everyone can join in and fight. Take the enemies on the dark pinnacle…it would be cool if they came storming out of there to fight the tauren on freewind. just NPCs going nuts in certain zones. You can join in and help fight for the territory or to defend it. Just an idea.
Jewelcrafters can prospect ore for valuable gems, and smelting ore gives you mining skill ups in the lower levels so rather than having to run around the lowbie zones desperately searching for ore nodes for skill ups you can just go to AH, buy some ore from there and smelt that to improve your mining skill. Easy and simple.
On the other hand, all you can do with bars is craft things with them, so they’re not quite as useful as ore.
Precisely. As an example: A single Silver Bar costs about 1 gold at the Auction House. This is pretty reasonable, even though it’s a low-level metal, because it’s fairly rare; you see maybe 1 Silver Vein for every 8-10 Tin Veins. But Silver Ore is worth 5 gold a pop at least. The reason for this is because Smelt Bronze goes grey at 115, but you can’t mine or smelt Iron until 125. Between 115 and 125, the only ore that gives you Mining skill for smelting is Silver. Even then, it goes yellow at 115 and green at 122, so you’re probably going to need 15-20 ore just to get to 125. (This isn’t a big problem for folks who are keeping their skills trained as they level, because you can get skill for mining Tin up to 125 and beyond. It’s just the folks who have lots of money and no time to hunt Tin that are willing to pay so much.)
You can’t even Prospect Silver Ore. If you could, it’d probably be worth 10 gold minimum.
Even if ore and bars are going for similar prices on your server, there is a larger customer base for ore, so it’ll sell faster.
(As a tangent to this, I was poking around on the Auction House on Cenarius earlier today and saw someone selling a stack of 20 Silver Bars for 4 gold. :eek: You bet your ass I bought that.)
And that’s another thing to remember…each server has its own economy. You can sell copper ore on one server for 2g per 20-stack and on another server you’d have your auctions expire unbid at that price.
Don’t start combat by shooting at the enemy.
Look at the buttons on your pet tab. The leftmost one will send your pet to attack whatever you currently have selected. As a hunter you should initiate combat by selecting a target, launching your pet at it, and casting Hunter’s Mark while your pet is closing. When your pet reaches the target and starts attacking, watch for the little red marks that appear over the enemy when your pet does Growl. After you see those marks, THEN start shooting. Your pet will have built up a lot of aggro by that point and it will be much harder for you to do enough damage to have the enemy switch focus to you.
I play a hunter regularly and I rarely melee. You want to try to avoid it as much as possible because you do much less damage that way.
Here’s a macro I created that streamlines the process:
#show Hunter’s Mark
/petattack
/cast Hunter’s Mark
The first line makes the icon show a white or red dot to tell you if you’re in range for Hunter’s Mark to work.
If an enemy does reach you, you can still get some shots in by backing up. Don’t turn and run. As you’ve discovered, you can’t turn back around fast enough. Instead you want to take one or two steps back and fire a single high damage shot like Arcane or Aimed. Most enemies have moments in their attack cycles where they can’t immediately follow you if you back up. Usually it’s while they’re in the middle of an attack animation. If you back up during that window you can get enough distance to get off one good shot before they close again. Then next time they attack, do it again. Just be sure you know what’s behind you so you don’t back up into another enemy or off a cliff.
Welcome to crafting professions!
First lesson: You look at the list of what you can make, and pick the item (still orange) that takes the fewest/cheapest mats to make. You can make 10 of them, and skill up 10 times. So can anyone else. Everyone on the server with that profession is making 10 of these and dumping them on the AH, too. Net result, everyone’s losing money on the item to skill up.
Second lesson: Any item will sell for the same at one vendor as at any other.
Corollary: Any two vendors that sell the same item will charge the same.
Exception: Faction bonuses. When you’re exalted with one faction and friendly with another, the exalted faction gives you discounts.
Third lesson: If you make green items and you have a toon with enchanting, the enchanter can DE the items to get the materials needed to level enchanting.
Fourth lesson: The only reasons to have a crafting profession are the (very) few special high-level recipes that people will pay big money for, or the (very) few items that you can make only for yourself (they’re BOP, so you can’t sell them)
Each server has two economies: horde and alliance. You can often find items that are cheap on horde and expensive on alliance or vice-versa. If you are tricky and move items between your horde and alliance toons using the neutral auction houses in the goblin cities, you can game the system and make some extra gold.
Lootables is a great guide for getting tradeskills up in the most efficient manner. (Sadly, it hasn’t been updated for Wrath of the Lich King skill levels.) It kind of assumes that you have a boatload of cash and can just buy up stuff and do this in one go, but anyone can follow the steps to get skill points.
On my server I buy a particular set of items from a vendor in Old Town for 4 to 14 silver a pop, then sell them on the Auction House at prices ranging from 1 to 30 gold each. I clear 200 gold in a slow week for an investment of 2 gold. The vendor and the auction house are 40 seconds apart. People just don’t know the items are for sale from a vendor, see them, and want them and will pay stupid prices.
I had an interesting experience yesterday that made me wonder if I might enjoy playing on an RP server. I was somewhere in Ashenvale with my Tauren hunter, and I arrived at one of those ubiquitous furbolg settlements at the same time as a Night Elf character. We arrived from different directions, so the elf was over there and I was over here, but together we just proceeded to wipe out the furbolgs (nobody likes those guys, apparently). When it was over, I gave the elf a /wave, and he/she (I couldn’t tell at that distance) gave me a /bow, and we went our separate ways.
Granted, this was on Cairne, which isn’t a PVP server, so the elf and I couldn’t have attacked each other anyway since we were killing “neutral” enemies and thus not toggling the PVP threat thing. But it occurred to me that the hostilities between the Horde and the Alliance, much like the Cold War’s USA & USSR, are more of a “group” thing; ordinary individuals on each side really should have no problem with each other and there’s no real reason to just automatically “kill on sight” when randomly encountering somebody of the opposite faction. I kind of enjoyed the experience
Couple new questions:
QuestHelper: is it safe to assume that the number in front of the quest name is the level of the quest? Because I’m kind of confused about a quest my lvl 14 Night Elf druid got yesterday. She was given an empty vial and had to go draw a sample of contaminated water from the mouth of a cave at a waterfall near Auberdine. It appeared to be listed as a lvl 14 quest, but when I arrived at the waterfall the area was defended by a mob of lvl 16 & 17 serpent things. I managed to complete the quest, only getting killed once — basically, I barely managed to kill the serpents outside the cave without getting killed myself, healed quickly, then edged up to the mouth of the cave while staying out of sight of the serpents inside the cave, obtained the water sample, and then ran like hell when new defenders spawned right next to me. That was supposed to be a lvl 14 quest? Holy crap!
I’m finding something of a shortage of level-appropriate quests for my druid at the moment. The Dolanaar quests and the various druid-specific quests got me to level 13/14, and then new quests stopped appearing. So I moved on to Auberdine, which seems to be the next logical step, and I’ve accepted a number of quests there, which all seem to be lvl 17+. I did finally re-acquire the Lady Sathrah quest, and completed it successfully this time. The ending of that quest was kinda cool.
On the Auberdine docks, there is what appears to be a Blood Elf hooker 
Her name is Something-or-other Longears, and her attire looks suspiciously like fishnet stockings and lingerie, though I imagine it’s actually mail armor. She’s got a gray “!” over her head, so I suppose she might offer me a quest at some point. I think I’m going to have to buy Burning Crusade. Those Blood Elves are even sexier than the Night Elves 
Clothing: For purely aesthetic reasons, is it possible to buy regular clothing (for the “shirt” slot, I guess) that will appear over a character’s armor? I really liked the way my female Night Elf druid looked in her starting robe/dress and would like to have her dress like that as a regular thing, but the only robes/dresses I’ve found so far are actually cloth armor that goes in the “chest” slot and provide inadequate protection. (Yeah, I’m playing dressup dolls with my characters - I think the female Night Elves look kind of bony in pants, and the starting robe made her look less starved.)
I also wanted to make sure I’m not overstepping my bounds with the Guild Vault. Can I just freely help myself to what I find in there? Not that there’s much in the way of low-level stuff I can use in there, but I did find a leatherworking recipe I could use, and I swiped a couple stacks of light leather and withdrew 5 gold because I’m still a bit short of the gold I need for riding lessons (I really want a mount!) I’ve put a few lower-level items in, as well.
I’m happy to report that I finally encountered a fellow guild member the other day. T-something Jenkins, if I recall correctly, sitting there fishing in the pond in Thunder Bluff. I came out of a shop, and just happened to spot <Burning Dog Legion> over his head, so I came over, sat down, and said “hello”. (Hey, I found a great spot to fish, though it’s pretty dangerous. There’s a small lake next to that demon-infested area near the Bristlepine Post/Warsong Logging Camp, and I jumped in and dived below the surface … that lake is literally packed with fish! No surprise, I suppose — the area residents don’t dare go in there, what with all the demons
“Jenkins” is a surname from a particular achievement, lvl 50s+. Google “Leroy Jenkins” sometime, especially if you find the original video. 
QuestHelper: Yeah, that’s a level suggestion.
Shirts typically go under the armor. If you have a gold to spend on a guild tabard, that will go over your chest armor.
Well, Mister Rik, I totally understand how you feel about pvp. Especially since I am usually on the losing end of it.
Got bored trying to find lvl appropriate quests I can solo with my lvl 31 horde/orc hunter so I went to Silverpine. nothingt there at first so I thought I’d go to hillsbrad and see what would happen if I was in Alliance territory. I never made it, as a human warlock was on the road. We both stopped and for at least a minute stood motionless on our mounts watching each other. He started to move, as if to run away which made me think “He’s scared! I can take him!”…well, I could have, but he was good. He feared me, nuked my pet and then he and his pet came after me before I could get my wits back. I hurt him, but he won the fight.
So decided to go back to Ogrimmar and work on levelling in horde territory.
Earlier though on a new lvl 7 as of now tauren shaman I ran into the person that ganked me earlier! (look earlier in the thread, I mentioned it) I was hunting the lions and killing the gnolls near the tauren village for two different quests when someone said in general that there was a higher level alliance druid pestering them and that he was thinking about logging on with a lvl 80 character to kill them and perhaps corpse camp them. I wouldn’t corpse camp another player but killing them…hmmm…
Then I saw her. Delvara. I remember her and her friend ganking me a day ago until another player came along and we killed her. Archimonde is a PvP server, but for some reason she wasn’t flagged as pvp to me. Must have something to do with the area around Bloodhoof village. It was kind of funny. delvara did everything she could to outright annoy me without attacking. Followed me around and if possible attacked a target i was after first. She even ninja’d the treasure chest in the gnolls village while I was fighting the last gnoll standing. (that was pathetic, as I know from our previous encounter on my orc hunter that none of the contents in the chest would be useful at her level). It was blatant…she was trying to goad me into attacking and thus putting a pvp flag on myself. Iignored her. After 15 minutes she ran off to bug someone else. Even with that, I think pvp in WoW is kinda fun.
I have a different issue now. My pet keeps stealthing automatically. It sucks because I have to manually unstealth him. His run speed slows and i lose him while travelling on foot. How do I fix it so he doesn’t stealth unless I tell him to?
2 more noob questions: In 1000 needles I have the stupid quest to kill Steelsnap. Does this %$#@! ever spawn? I have periodically scouted the area for days and never seen him!
The other question is how could I see Delvara’s lvl range in Stonetalon and not in Bloodhoof? Its a pvp server so why wasn’t she automatically attackable?
I know I completed this quest and don’t remember having to wait for a respawn - I might have just happened upon him. He comes with two “sidekicks” so he’s hard to miss. Also kind of hard to kill if you’re not used to a three-mob pull. Trapping and fearing can help. Or having a group, of course. Thisshows where he should spawn.
Just wanted to pipe up to say that I have subscribed to this thread and am finding it informative to the point of wishing we could “sticky” it or create a special “Doper” Warcraft Q&A?
I know one can go to the WoW forums, but (if I may say so) we seem to communicate at a higher level, and anyway I feel more comfortable asking my questions here.
Whatcha’ll think?
Thanks
Q
The WoW forums are the last place I look for information. Because of the game’s popularity there are a lot of childish idiots mixed in with the adults.
Just now I asked a simple question in game…how do I get from here to there? the first and only response was ‘Use ur feet’.
I complemented the sender on his lack of originality in a respnse and being completely unhelpful to boot. Mama must be proud, when she’s not bringing his din din down to the basement.
Yeah, I saw that video a couple years ago. Didn’t realize there was an achievement to go with it
Jolly Roger: I haven’t played on a PvP server in WoW, but my understanding is that total bigtime n00b areas (like Bloodhoof Village) are protected from PvP, so high-level opposite faction people can’t come in and blow up n00bs until they get mad and quit. You have to go out into a “contested” area, I think, to get ganked.
As for your pet stealthing, open your “Spellbook” and click the Pet tab at the bottom. Find Prowl and click and/or right click it until it no longer has a shiny and/or swirling border. While you’re at it, look for other skills in there that you may never know your pet had! If you see something cool that you’d prefer to only activate occasionally from the pet bar, drag it down there. You can also right-click other skills if you’d prefer to have them running all the time. Anything listed as “Passive” is on all the time, period.