Worst parts of the "good" Star Trek films

It helps explain the scene where she goes bopping into the turbolift with her hair down and starts cooing to Kirk and Bones.

Huh - I will have to re-watch it now - I don’t remember anything to indicate that scene took place at PlexiCorp, nor that there was any dialogue to explain that the Huey was part of the deal.

The three were together (Bones, Scotty, Sulu) when they saw the Yellow Pages sign while looking for a solution. Nothing on screen indicates that they went to different places. While Bones and Scotty were inside, the quick cut to Sulu macking the helicopter guy seems to indicate they are in the same place.

The way it is shown on screen seems to indicate to me that the three did not separate. However, nothing on screen indicates specifically that the three remained together either, so YMMV

Well, if your plan is to shove this week’s baddie into an oven - it’s quite apropos. I know what you mean, yet that episode is really great - perhaps just for the great acting of Patrick Stewart and Paul Winfield. Too bad they never followed up on how powerful those folks were - I mean Tamarians could zap the Captain from the bridge of his starship and stop anyone from doing anything about it? Similar to what the Kataans do, in Inner Light.

Sorry OP, for thread-jacking. It’s hard to think of worst parts in the “good” Treks. One thing that has always bothered me is Chekov saying “Wessel”, but he does that in both good & bad :slight_smile:

In the Sulu helicopter scene, the people all around are wearing Plexicorp hardhats. (Just watched the scene on Netflix.)

Thanks ! I had no idea there was all this backstory…that never made it into the movie (would have been helpful).

Saavik seemed pretty stone cold, unemotional during her Kobayashi Maru faux carnage (maybe she “knew” it was all for show anyway ?), and so she seemed to be “Vulcan” from the get-go. So the BBQ’ed Preston scene always bothered me.

I haven’t watched enough of Kirstie Alley’s work to judge her acting abilities, but I’ve never understood why she was placed in that role. (Can you imagine her in Robin Curtis’ scenes in TSfS?)

True. I’m sure the Ba’qu wouldn’t have minded people settling on the far side of the planet, just as long as they were left alone.

I’ll admit to taking some of this from the novelization, but it makes sense: if you’re going to bargain away secrets from the future to get some big-ass sheets of plexiglass, wouldn’t you add, “And I need to haul it there - mind if we borrow your Huey? I know this guy…great pilot.”

Interesting. I never caught that.

Per imdb, he was originally intended to steal it.

For me it works better to have the helicopter be part of the transparent aluminum deal.

The Undiscovered Country would have been a lot better without the pink blood and the wacky hijinks regarding sneaking into Klingon space.

This is something that has always bothered me about Trek. Vulcans aren’t genetically emotionless, it comes from their training. So why would being half Romulan make any difference?

Even more so when they say Spock had a difficult time with being emotionless because he was half human. But then they always say that a non-trained Vulcan would have stronger emotions that humans. Wouldn’t being half human give Spock an advantage?

The joke will be on you when we’re talking in Emojis in 30 years :slight_smile:

IIRC, it wasn’t so much her half-Romulan heritage, as that she grew up on a savage, uncivilized planet - like Tasha in Next Generation. I’m happy to be corrected, or to get some more details.

The one that gets me the most is mentioned above - Uhura and the others doing a comedy routine sneaking into Klingon space in Undiscovered Country. Damnit, Uhura is an experienced Comm Officer; she would have known how to speak Klingon.

So they could just make her a full Vulcan raised on a savage, uncivilized planet.

It’s not like any Vulcans need half-whatever ancestry to show any emotions. Sybok was a full Vulcan who had emotions-- although now that I type that, I know STV is a ridiculous example… Surely there must have been some other examples in Trek.

They could have at least used the computer to get the translation, and then speak that translation back to the Klingons, rather than spending the time tearing through the books.

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We reach, brother!

My fanwank is that “proper society” speak only in metaphor. Full sentences are for engineers and children. Outside of the bridge, and when not dealing with outsiders, they speak in full sentences. But it’s so ingrained that they can’t break the rule to save their lives.

Sorry for three in a row - I’m catching up on the overnight posts.

The way she said “damn” when she heard it was the Kobayashi Maru led me to think she knew what the test was (you’d think they’d change the name once in a while so the captains-in-training wouldn’t be alerted ahead of time, if it is a true “test of character. How we face death is at least as important as how we face life”. But if you KNOW going in what the test is, it’s not a true test of character.)

I thought Kirstie was awesome in the role. I thought Robin Curtis was a pale imitation, and I would have loved it if they’d kept her all the way through, all the way to her (rather than Valeris’) betrayal in The Undiscovered Country.

I recall an interview where the producers said they had to make the blood purple to avoid a PG-13 rating.

Khan is intelligent, but also arrogant, too.