You’re right. I’m sure that shooting at rescue helicopters is key to their survival. Who are we to judge who can and cannot shoot at rescue helicopters? These people have been through a lot, if shooting at rescue helicopters is the only way for them to insure their survival, no need for us to sit and judge them.
Thanks, Dio, for helping me understand the plight of these poor people.
“They” do not represent the vast majority of the Katrina survivors, though. Yet, “they” are all you seem to think about.
Stop devoting so much energy to people outside of your circle of influence* and start doing something for the people who need help.
Priorities, people. Priorities!
*Thanks to Stephen R. Covey for giving me some insight into the ineffectiveness of certain people.
No, it is not unreasnable for you to expect not to get shot. Anyone who would shoot you would be a criminal.
Ahem. “They” are preventing people who desperately need to be rescued from being saved. They may represent a minority, but they are putting the majority in grave danger.
This is exactly why it was necessary to put down a few looters just as soon as the criminal behavior began: you show in the most dramatic way possible that violence and lawlessness will not be tolerated.
I agree. People are skipping through the flowers in la la land here. Without law and order, anarchy escalates. It just starts with the looting and grows from there. It will probably get worse from there. Now, the National Guard is probably going to have to open machine gun fire to stop some of the gangs from blocking relief and rescue operations. A reasonable show of force on the streets to begin with could hace prevented much of this. It did start with the looting. It will certainly get worse from here.
Well, it would appear that the Katrina survivers who are not shooting can’t be rescued because of the Katrina survivors who are shooting.
One way to help those who are not shooting would be to stop the ones who are shooting from shooting.
Any suggestions? Offer them a Twinkie and a Pepsi?
There is no “mob.” You are fallaciously trying to fabricate a collective responsibility on the part of all “looters” for the actions of a few individuals or discrete groups. It’s not going to work.
Depends on the state.
There are a number of states that permit deadly force to be used in defense of property.
In those states, a guard shooting you to protect property would not be breaking any laws.
Or a police officer.
How do you know what rights people have? In what book is it written?
Every single looter in New Orleans is shooting at helicopters? Are you saying that if one person shoots at a helicopter, then everybody in the city who has taken a box of diapers or a radio deserves to die?
Look, cunt, if you can’t argue without misconstruing the other side of the argument, fuck off.
I haven’t had to resort to saying “Stephe96 wants to shoot all the coloreds of New Orleans in the head!”
It makes it hard to feel like even trying to make a point if you are so stupid and/or obtuse that you cannot comprehend it. The point all along was that prevention of looting is a lower priority than search and rescue. Show me anyone who said that they were unconcerned about the prevention of violence, rioting, or murder.
Looting is an aspect of social disorder, somewhere above truancy, trespass, or vandalism and somewhere below assault, rioting, rape and murder. Nobody here has argued against the restoration of social order. I have argued that a bullet to the head is an inappropriate response to looting.
Would you shoot someone for trespass? For failing to attend school today? If not, is it fair to say that YOU LIKE RAPE! Or that you WANT TO GIVE TEH TWINKIES TO MURDERERS!!! Fucking dumbass.
I’m pretty sure any cop that shoots an unarmed bank robber is a criminal.
Not sure about Loisiana or Tennessee, but you would be well advised not to test your theory in Texas:
I think he has pretty much indicated we don’t have to wait for them to shoot at helicopters. Shoot 'em all, let God sort it out; is that about right Duke?
Apparently, a National Guardsman on one of the helicopters was hit by a bullet. I say that President Bush should admit it was a mistake to go into New Orleans and withdraw all troops immediately! Oh, and the Guardsman’s mother should camp out in Crawford and demand to know why her little baby was placed in harm’s way. 
No, your original retort was to a post by Mama Tiger who said kill the shooters. She didn’t say anything about looters. You jumped to the conclusion that she meant shoot somebody with a box of diapers. She was able to make the distinction, I was able to make the distinction, you don’t seem to able to follow.
Everybody can just fuck off with their legal cites. For one thing. I’m talking about moral rights, not legal rights. For another, The laws being cited are about owners protecting property as it’s being taken, not about police helicopters randomly strafing hurricane survivors in the streets because they’re holding a bottle of water.
You want to know what book? Check your fucking Bible.
Sorry, don’t get the point of your argument. No one here says that there is nothing wrong with shooting at rescue choppers. The main reason looters are not being “stopped” (although it is quite clear that considerable effort has been made to to stop the looting) is purely one of available manpower. Now, I suppose we could get around the manpower problem by putting up a minigun-equipped AC-130 and having it mow down everyone in a crowd of looters. Hell, I bet one time, just as, you know, an example to others, would be sufficient. Would that be acceptable to you? If not, why not? If it is acceptable to you, do you seriously think a majority would agree?
I asked this of you in another thread, and you ignored it, so I’ll ask again: how do you account for the fact that law enforcement officials themselves apparently do not yet feel that using deadly force on random looters would be an effective tactic?
I’ll also say, once again, that this problem will resolve itself within a couple of days, with or without the widespread use of deadly force by police or other authorities.
While I may not be as pro killing the looters as some people here. if I were in my (non existant) NO home and a roving gang of humans tried to break into my home (flooded as it may be), I would start shooting until either they, or I, were dead… or they ran off. This would be especially true if I had family in my home with me.
Since I don’t have any gods, do I still have to pray?